Where are other males??

24 Hours passed.Nobody took my Challange.



That means all of them just want others to follow Islamic rules but don't follow them themselves.

Girls, I appreciate your views. Bye

Can you plz open a new poll... We are bound to roles and regulations then i will try to give the answer..

Thnanks....

Can you plz check this..
Protest The Visit Of Modi Killer To Usa, Write petition please

http://www.muziqpakistan.com/board/index.p...topic=43538&hl=

I'm surprised our tribal councillors allowed this to slide by ..
ab tak qatal-o-gharat kion nahain shuroo hoee!

Actually, its killer Modi.Not Modi killer.

that is the reason khan's have died in afghanistan. i wont die that easily, they just didn't use their mind and took a pankga with the world power.

whats mp? but i wish if i was skilled enough to be a molvie. i have watched movies which means i'm not even a normal muslim, i'm bad. a normal muslim cant watch movies, acting is ok and i love paki indian funny dramas.

never forget to include INSHALLAH because i trust on him the most.

and what is halaku now?

men are strong enough to work out side they can survive fight more, that is the reason men are the best criminals and terrorists. cooking needs brain, storage place men brain is not that strong.

nobody is true muslim nowadays and that's what makes me really angry. but there are several male muslims in pakistan who have never watched any movie, gareeb log, pour people! they dont have the money. and if you want a male like that go to a mosque instead of internet because internet daily shows un-islamic pictures i dont know any other way to stop them except ignoring them.

MP means MuziqPakistan, that's the name of this sight.

yep agree..

okay, Inshallah you will arrive your aims, but hey don't be sooooooooo strict with "bad" ppl

inshallah i will reach my aims and be polite to humans.

btw, you are a fan of that cricket monkey?

hey do you know that he behaves UN-islamic??!

he drinks, went to clubs, during his australian stay?!?

just noticed that, coz you hate meera coz of her behaviour and you like a behaviour which is similar to meeras?!?!

hey how did you preview that picture? i cant see it under my name like others???

Do you wanna have that pic as your avatar or as your signature?!?!

Go to my controls and change the settings there!

oh no its letting me remove it but not paste any other in place of it, i am retrying...

Another stupid comment.You mean to say that women are not strong?


Wonder why majority of chefs are men.

Our society has values that we pakistanis religiously follow.
I mean such an affair is seriously un acceptable in anyone's books.

It isnt just because it is a bad morality issue, but because of the fact that it isnt the message that needs to be spread to our society.
People tend to follow what they see the hot movie stars doing on tv.

A society is made up of values. Lowering those values just gives you a
lowered/degraded society that carries nothing but cheapness!
That is not what we need to spread in our society.
Thats also the reason why lollywood(which you can say is 80's bollywood) never makes it to our society, while bollywood is able to carry on !

yeah, women are not strong enough to defend their selves from outside thiefs and thugs, thugs will rule humans if women are placed to defend shops, bussinesses and all outside works. you have to transport money from place to place, thugs will keep an eye on you. they may attack you if they get a chance. women give chances very easily. i did said that they are clever, but in these things they forget that its not thier home where only known guests come and trusted ones.
we cant let only women use their brain and throw ours in trash! and like i said outside works are hard you also need a hard heart to make decisions like musharraf, he had to give permission to attack our loving nieghbors afghanistan, women wouldn't have done that and pakistan by now would be a place where people used to live!

I do agree with sharose Khan. According to Islam, men and women are equal.
Equality should be showed in respect, honor, treatment, rights, etc. But not all jobs are ok for women or men. There are limits in some jobs, such asmen cant look after kids better than women. In a similar way womens hearts are weaker than men, women wont be able to handle huge responsibilities.
They will either giveup or ..

Women r good in cooking but not in handling huge pressures of orders. Majority
of men r chef coz their hearts r stronger they wont giveup and sit back and cry
if a mistake iz done or some instant problem is created. No offence: womens
screams if they see a house on fire or a person dieing of wounds rather than finding way to extinguish fire or helping that person.

Back to the topic: If anyone tries to degrade Pak or Islam, we should show
patience and should not come on streets and shout slogans against whats going on.
As it is said in Holy Quran: Bayshak Allah sabar karnay waloon kay saath hay.By shouting slogans we cant solve this matter or be able to stop these people
of doing their dirty job.

Instead we should see ourself, that how can we create image of Pak and Islam
better. If ur actions are better in front of people no one will think about the bad image.

We should defeat those evil powerz, who always plan to degrade our religion
and country. They invited her by offering more money and respect, and used
her to fulfill their aims. And we like fools are trying to make their plans
succeed.

Start a new topic on it, inshaAllah I will be there and reply. If time permits I will start some topic related to it.

Heh heh...child, come to Delhi and I'll show you the number of women cops security guards.

Anyways, the bottomline has already been mentioned by Ug_lee in the other thread.

Agree.


A woman is not so weak as you have mentioned.
Haan yeh sehi hain, keh kaha jatah hain keh ek Aurat kah dil kamzoor hotah hain, but I don't think that she is not able to handle responsiblities. And I don't think that only a women would give up so easiliy- just prejudices..
Itnee kamzoor bhi nahin hain ajh kal ki women.



Why, why is a woman not able to handle pressures?!? She can, if she has enough confidence, but it is hard to give a proof to a world, where men are dominant.
and exuse me, your example "house on fire" is not at all a good one.
You can't say that only a woman would act like that, if can also be a man, who could loose at that moment to use his brain.

I agree with ya_ali, Sharose..

he is right..

haven't you seen that paki women are in police too?!?

don't you think that they are strong enough?

choteh bachi wali baatein kahrnah band karoh

I am telling u that I dont think against women. I want our women, I mean
Muslim women to be more stronger like men. coz our future doesnt just depend
on men it depends more on women. Persons future depends on their base which
is ofcourse created by their mothers.

If I said women cant handle huge responsibilities, sorry for not explaining
well. I said before there r roles for men and women. women can do men roles
but not better than men similarly is with men. So only responsibilies that
the women are good in should be given to them and so as with men.

I know I made that exampple of house on fire didnt suited well. I dont really
want to post what I saw in Pak women (in majority). I thought that example
would resemble it. Look at former PM Benazir, she gave up and ran away when
everything was messed up. Look at Nawaz he messed up as well but was still
trying to control but another man Gen Sharfoo came and took control from
him. I am trying to say here that Ruler of the country should be man not
woman. God has created Animals for human to learn from them, look at Lion's
, Peacocks and other animals life. Its not men r dominating in every field
there r many fields were women r dominating men. Like in health and care
women r dominating if i am not rong.

If u say women r in police, thats a good step coz women police can understand
better the problems of women. But if u think by becoming a police women they
got mens job then ur wrong. U will see if a women tries to do mens job, she
will start acting like men and become bad in doing real womens job, that can
be looking after home and kids --> As a result the kids r spoiled --> as a
reult the whole generation is spoiled. so women has a much greater role in this
world than men. so women should stick to their roles and leave the mens roles
alone.

I think this is almost off topic but still has some relation with the topic .

^^^What?

women should do what roles exactly ... cook and clean and produce tons of babies yeah....

no way... women should try their best and achieve in any field they want to. A woman can become a leader of Pak if she wants to all she needs is the moolah and influence and no one will bat an eyelid as to her gender. As for Benazir running away so did most of the guys too.

man ur attitude is wrong

haroonpk,Mar 13 2005, 10:47 PM


yep agree with you.



Would you mind to give me an example what kind of role you mean?

I mean it is clear for myself, that a islamic woman, should not hug a a man if she has finished his business talking.

Do you have other ones?




okay, maybe you have seen that in real- I don't know..
And how the majority there is, * no comments*


Now to your statement that a country should not run by a woman.

AND that is really nonsense! - Sorry but don't you think that it is rubbish, what are you saying?
I mean just coz of ONE woman,who missused his power- joh merih nazroon meh wessih hi ek "badmash" type kih thi, and that's y your saying every Pakistani woman would run her country like that? I doubt that.
Why are you thinking so negative that no woman is able to run a country just because of that *.......*!
And have been the men better rulers? I even disagree with the kind of policy which is the current PM of PK is running.
just ZIA was all right.
so please bring some better arguements.

btw. kabhi sunah hain, keh haar kam yaab mard keh peeche ek Aurat kah haat hotah hain?



I think this is almost off topic but still has some relation with the topic .

nope, I haven't said that they would be better if they can replace a job what a men can do.noaway.. joh yeh sochtih hain bewekoof hain.
I don't know what kind jobs you mean, where a woman would start acting LIKE men. - really I don't have an idea. some examples please.



yep, it is out of topic but.... choreh, jab tak close nahin hotah.. discussion hi sehi..


bilkul it is related with the "original" thread..

many expect that from a woman, but they forget that it is possible to be a good housewife, and at the same time to be successful too.




Agree with you.
Even if we are only women, we have the right to try our best, and to fulfil our dreams.
and yep, the molvie influence is too much, that's y I think it will be really hard for a woman to become a PM of Pakistan. Because Benazir has already ruined the image for a PM as a WOMEN. Abhi takh bhi nahin jaan choor thi..



not in every aspect, but in this one yes.

seems like after all i got some one who wants to stop meera, and is with a better brain than me. i think we have already done enough sabar. when meera went their to participate in a movie we were waiting. i guess Allah should be with us now, we should start with patience and end in kicking her out of ''pak'' place, pakistan!

in delhi, ''if'' just imagine if you come up against a women police officer and she does not have any other police backup with her, what is she going to do? whe cant fight you. forget about guns, imagine if some thing happened to her gun or you just spilled some alcohol on it. what is she going to do? run away right, she cant fight you! you'll finish her game in a second. dont forget that if your imagining your self as a criminal, you are of a age between 25 to 40.

what i would say is that- benazir yah nawas, pakisatan ki barbadi! musharraf aur zia zindabad! every day women cook healthy food for men and men eat it, and then when they are kamyab, a women is behind them!

jao jakehr ache bache ban kahr, aap nah school kah lecture yaad kahr loh.

sweety! who named u? grow up!!!!

"She hasn't done anything un-Islamic Is it allowed in Islam to dance infront of the world with less clothes?

Now he says, "What's wrong with a kiss?" You either be Islamic or not Islam, hypo.

I can understand, it must be painful for Pakistani producer to lose Meera, she works in half of the movies annually.

Meera stay in Bollywood, because you can help Lollywood in being able to try to prevail Bollywood by working there. got it? I know you did

Calm down sister. I will try to explain the roles of women inshaAllah. I dont say women cant achieve in any field they want to. but if they will achieve it I m sure
there will then be some problems that might arise, I have tried to explain below. In achieving those goals they should not forget their real responsibilities. There is
no harm in woman to work unless she perforns her main responsibilities well.

sorry for my attitude, I was trying to explain in short which created problems, i will takecare in future. If I did it again I do appologise for it.

If I will tell the roles straight away then Achibachi will go mad. so I will try to explain it in a nice way so that no one goes mad hopefully. I hav discussed thiz earlier If I will create two different machines or a software, I will know better about the requirements and functions of those machine. I will know how they can stay well and perform well or how good these machines are in doing different jobs. I know better how these machines can be destroyed or will not perform their jobs well. the problem is these two machines differ slightly in their functions.

I will make a user guide for them to help others understand my creation. if some one else trying to be clever just gets one of my machhine and makes it to perform functions of the other as well which I had not mentioned or not allowed in my user guide then he is taking risk and is creating a problem by misusing it and thus making me angry. As I m the creator or programmer I might punish that user as well coz the user went against my rules.

So Allah has created man and woman, they are having similarities and bit differences in their abilities. rest is ur job to compare this with the above example. The userguide for human i.e. man and woman is the Holy book Quran and Sunnah of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).

In the life of Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), different roles were given to men and women. Thats why a stable, powerfull and civilised society was emerged. (no democracy was there)

But now no matter men or women rules they r currupted. cozz they left real teachings of Islam.

I gave banazir example coz she was the only women PM of Pak. If we take west where most of the women do men jobs, I dont really want to mention more here. U might see their society and might predict about their future. I see almost no difference in human or animal behavior there. I might not explain it in detail. I will leave on u to think about it.



Maynay kab inkaar kia hay is baat say, kab say yehi samjhaanay kee koshish karraha hoon. Kay agar aurat apnay roles play naa karay to koi mard kaamyaab nahee hosakta --> result no one wish to see.
Lakin takreeban har naakaaam mard kay peechay bhi aurat ka haath hota hay i dont think u need examples. Here I m not mentioning every men and women.



I said if women will start doing mens job they will act like men, Think if a woman works fulltime 5 or 6 days a week like men, then after her job next thing to do will be to go to bed and sleep. then who will bring the kids up, who will do their tarbiat, etc I am sure u know Dads are not good at it. The kids (future) will be spoiled. If u think its schools job to bring kids up and do tarbiat totally wrong, its the mother whose responsibilty is this.

According to teachings of Islam: the key of heaven is under the feet of mother. Research on this saying u will get ur replies inshaAllah. I say this is coz our mothers has done a lot of hard work to bring us up and to do tarbiat of young muslims. in return we should respect them and obey them to get the key of success. but if mothers wont fulfill their responsibilities, how they can make their children obey them or respect them. therefor, no sucess for children.
For children: U will still get the key to success by respecting and obeying ur mom even if u think she has not fulfilled her responsibility. As it is said: Everyone will be punished or rewarded according to their deeds.

oh boy,you belong to so last century!

click here

The photograph has been deleted which would have swept you away.

Delhi police women are cammando trained,specially to face the people who think they are weak.

hehe mujhe school me admit hone me patani kui itni dear lag rahi hai. anyway i know when ever i get admitted to a school i'll get so busy that i wouldn't have any time to sit on internet. that's because 2nd semester is about to end and i am sitting at home, playing with my electronic toys!

Hello Every1..

You know what.. Reading Meera'z statement was not a surprise. nor did i feel sorry for her, The reason is that..

You will really look strange if ur havning a character like MEERA and talk soo INNOCENTLY!!.. Common guys an girls, now you know better than me, her contoverseys are all over PAK, even outside that she'z been with this an that.. Working in Hindi movies is not a problem, what she did is really considered as a part of her JOB but 1 sec.. Talking as if she is the most innocent person and she is scared as death of coming back to pakistan doesnt make any sense to me...

Wherever you are Meera.. I think uve read this b4 "look b4 u leap"
'
Alee'

Adding more to what Ive said earlier..
This is soo strange that Pakistan is sort of Lightened up cuz of a Stupid Act by their MEERA>. I want to ask a Question where the hell was the nation earlier??
Worst things happened b4 too but what were they doin?>
Sleeping!!!
COmmon my dear nation wake up and take things as they come.. just like this came to us.. this aint the end of the World + In pakistan it self there is a new fashion of dirty dancing and all which is 1 million times worse Vulgar and embarassing to us then the Meera incident..

We should look inside ourselves b4 we point our fingure to others.. That will only make us a Great Nation Inshallah

Alee'

BHOPAL: Nothing is impossible in this world for women if they have strong will power to do some thing different. Seema Bhadoria has proved this saying by pulling the two trucks together by her teeth at Lalparade ground. By seeing her brave act every one was left astonished.-this is what i got on the link is this what you were talking about? there is nothing special in it! she got used to pull things with her teeth which caused her to behave like an animal and the result is infront of us. women still are not skilled enough to handle criminals because criminals are not 2 year old children who dont know how to use a knife, handgun, sniper rifle, rocket launcher, gas gernade, assault rifle, short gun, gernade, pk-102, k3g4, nightvision gun, magnum, automatics, uzi, m-16, pistols, machine gun, tranquinzel crossbow, flametrowers, desert, gernade launcher, acid gernade, freeze gernade, flame gernade, and much much more weapons. by the way coolhead, time to give your head a little heat! go to pak actress on the politics.... topic and read haroonpk's comment about the work women should do and why.

first of ALL read the whole tread, i have proved that meera has done a job that was never done before by a paki actress. going to india is not a problem at lot and that is the reason why people were sleeping when she went to india but now we know what she has done, we were expecting a family movie but its a .... choro, pehley tread pooooooooooora parho us ke bad agar convince nahen huin ke meera is bad than talk to me. give me any paki movies any picture that would be more worse than what meera has done. i'm searching for one myself on the internet if i got one i'll bring it..

Shahrose jee, As I have said earlier we should defeat the evil powerz who try to degrade Pak and Islam. By kicking meera out will succeed those powers in telling lies to this sleeping world that we as a Muslim give no right to women.

Meera was not even a pios woman before she left for india. So every1 knows about her character: Will do any thing for money. I bet to those powers try to change our real Pak or muslim woman, they will be tired will choose another path. As its said in Holy Quraan: Shaitaan will be able to control people whos deen is not strong enough but he has no power to change the minds of God fearing people.

Shahrose jee show more patience, we will see those powers crying. About Image of Pak and Islam it cannot be affected by such people easily. If there is one Meera to spoil the image there r 100 more to make the good image.

So we should make sure about ourselves first that how we r representing Pak and Islaam. By looking at ur actions peoples mind will not change by looking at meeras actions. they will just think not every Pak women is like that.

haroonpk i understand what you are trying to say about womens role of mother being more important than a 9 to 5 job this is true... but a women can do this and look after her children with the help of her husband....for eg. just like in villages a farm labourer in Pak has his wife and children help with the farm/crops/animals...in this case the wife is at work 24 hrs and is taking care of her family. Only this work is not perceived as western so it is ok? or not a position of power or influence.

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Agree with you, and what you have written it makes sense.

But just here is the point where I don't understand your way of thinking.
Just of ONE woman you have the prejudice now. And I live in a western country, and what is so wrong about if a woman is cashier? I mean- she only earns money in a "nice" way. Maybe I misunderstood you- if yes - I am sorry.
And if your talking just about the behaviour.. that is in my opinion another case.
Can't compare a western woman with an pakistani one.- Don't think that I have to explain it in detail too.


haha, kasoor woman kah nahin, man kah hain jisneh apni wife ki baat nahin maan nih.. ( boooh, lame excuse.. )


yep, agree and all what you have said it really makes sense.Bache keh tarbiat sirf ek mother hi kahr sakthi hain, beshak father lakh koshish kahr leh, jitnah bhi acha ho, he cannot replace the mother.
I have seen many women who work 5-6 hours a day- and for a mother who has small children to bring up, yes it is wrong.. but nothing wrong to work half days, if the children goes to school.

jealous huh? Can you drag even a mini van with your teeth?
My point is that If a woman has self confidence,she can do 90% of what a man can do.
You call her an animal as you don't want to let women out of the boundaries set by men like you.
If a woman was physically too weak,There would be no women's Tennis.
If women were mentally/emotionally too weak, Condoleezza Rice,Benazir Bhutto, Sonia Gandhi would have been crying every now and then.

According to you a woman should be treated humanly like this.--Click here.

BTW I responded to you,nobody else.

My dear sister, See I have already mentioned before that woman has more roles in this world. Doctors, teachers, nurses, engineers (its bit hard ), etc. But in doing jobs they should not forget their main responsibilies. So they can choose a job if they think it will not affect them in doing their main responsibilities keeping in their mind their religion and culture responsibilies as well. Its not just for women its for men as well.

U can see in Pak women r in different fields, I agree there r women who can do both jobs. But there r some problems that might arise in future, in west those problems has already reached the top level. One of these problems is divorse rate coz some or might be most of the women start thinking that they r strong enough and can live independent life ---> result uncivilised society (due to kids who face such parents).

24 hrs a day? or in 3 days, only joking. I know more questions will arise I will inshaallah try to reply if life and time permits.

There is no harm in earning halal rizk. I mean there is no harm if u do the job by keeping the teachings of Islaam in mind. --> no lies, no fraud, respect etc.


I just talked about behaviour coz I thought its better for this site, there is lot more which I cant mention I think u understood. See whether its western or Pakistani they r women with same properties. and will do same things as well. the difference is their tarbiat. If a western womens tarbiat is done according to Islam she will be different no matter which country she is living in.


excused



I have told earlier no harm in doing other jobs if main responsibilities r fulfilled. but I dont think thats easy for them, ONE day they might change, its nature.

About woman ruling country, let me try to explain bit more. See Allah knows better why females in all His creations are given less power than males. Look around in other creatures. for example in birds almost all male birds r either having crown on their heads or have more colourful feathers than female birds. I will tell u look at the documentries of different animals. u will always see male dominates females in some roles. for example always Lion attacks and bring food for lioness and their kids. So the roles of ruling, security and bringing food are given to males while the role of taking care of kids, protecting them from evil and training them (tarbiat) is given to females. Allah says in the Holy Quran that look around urself and think about them, there r signals in them for wise people.

I hope u understood what i m trying to say. Oh God, I think I m getting adicted to posting

what if her next plan to act the same way IN pakistan? every country knows that pakistani cities contains thousands of women working in hospitals, offices, police and much more, isn't it? we can take actions telling the world that she does not belong to us any more...