Pakistani No.1 In Pornographic Searches Options

[Inc0gnito]

overseas pakistanis can most definitely help lowering pakistans ranking...wake up atleast to this!

I am already working on it. Inshallah I will do this service for my Nation.

[Ayesha_786]

overseas pakistanis can most definitely help lowering pakistans ranking...wake up atleast to this!

hahah
Yeah they shud join hands wid u AT .I know u r trying ur best but obviously you cant do it alone =)

[Miss_Capital]

@bewakoof

well i disagree with ur approach i nthis matter,it's quite good to discuss about what good or positive picture our country possess but iam sure that discussing and highlighting more of negative things would act as a trigger in an average pakistani that they should at least play their role for the well being of society they live in.We have all turned a blind eye to the negative aspects from past 62 years and now is the "hour of need" when we actually behave sensitive to our problems and try to resolve them through collective measures.If our government is corrupt than it's us the people who bring these culprits into power and than our grand paistani nation waits for a magic stick to get thier problems solved overnight...com on it;s nt gonna help us in long run..people need to voice against these problems and if we cant do anything in practical than the least we can do is to "DISCUSS"

[beewaqoof]

I think topic is going towards wrong direction. My comment was related to this topic and i have seen that we are getting this habit to look for excuses of bashing our country. We read one news and then that is enough for us to express our love for our country

Sure pakistani are insecure peoples, they are hyporate , sex maniac who beat their wives daily and have pride in honor killings, they dont give any rights and respect to childrens and women etc tec. Please you and morg tell me more about negative things in pakistan so that i can improve myself and my country fellows? I also know Indian and Western-inspired bigoted "Paki" bashing that is so rampant in cyberspace who help me to get the negative picture of my country. I also need help of many paksitanis who also think like them. Come forward you guys and tell me about all negative things in my country so that i can find some reasons to hate my country and its peoples

Miss capital i am looking for constructive criticism which aimed at solving the problem. Unfortunately constructive comments are extremely rare on this forum. When i read the views of peoples here then i feel that pakistan is a source of shame for us. If we are not acknowledging Pakistan as our country, why should we feel ashamed of it. The fact of the matter is that whether we consider Pakistan our country or not is irrelevant. By being born there we will always have this Pakistani Link. And sooner or later we will turn back to our roots. If not us then our children certainly will. Look at the Afro Americans . They are trying to rediscover their cultural heritage.

Miss Capital we should try to work on and improve these bad qualities instead of just giving up on them and turning against our nation. Pakistan has so many problems - literacy rate, corruption, health standards ... but so does every developing country in the world. I do not deny it and I feel bad about it but does that mean I should start criticizing it? No, I should try to fix it.I have been in western countries since I was very young. I have also met good people and bad ones. I feel that a Pakistani family have more cultural norms and respect than any other average american family. There are good people in pakistan too. Peoples who care. Peoples who understand ur feeling and who make u feel proud of ur country. Being a Pakistani is not a matter of choice as you seem to think. You will always be looked at as a Pakistani, like it or not, and given that basic fact of life you have a simple choice: to hate yourself or to love your true self.

Bewaqoof

This post has been edited by beewaqoof: Jul 18 2010, 05:17 PM

[glamourous]

hahah
Yeah they shud join hands wid u AT .I know u r trying ur best but obviously you cant do it alone =)

ewww

yeah incognito join hands with AT while watching porn togethere



bahahhhhahahha

[Morg]

I think topic is going towards wrong direction. My comment was related to this topic and i have seen that we are getting this habit to look for excuses of bashing our country. We read one news and then that is enough for us to express our love for our country

Sure pakistani are insecure peoples, they are hyporate , sex maniac who beat their wives daily and have pride in honor killings, they dont give any rights and respect to childrens and women etc tec. Please you and morg tell me more about negative things in pakistan so that i can improve myself and my country fellows? I also know Indian and Western-inspired bigoted "Paki" bashing that is so rampant in cyberspace who help me to get the negative picture of my country. I also need help of many paksitanis who also think like them. Come forward you guys and tell me about all negative things in my country so that i can find some reasons to hate my country and its peoples

Miss capital i am looking for constructive criticism which aimed at solving the problem. Unfortunately constructive comments are extremely rare on this forum. When i read the views of peoples here then i feel that pakistan is a source of shame for us. If we are not acknowledging Pakistan as our country, why should we feel ashamed of it. The fact of the matter is that whether we consider Pakistan our country or not is irrelevant. By being born there we will always have this Pakistani Link. And sooner or later we will turn back to our roots. If not us then our children certainly will. Look at the Afro Americans . They are trying to rediscover their cultural heritage.

Miss Capital we should try to work on and improve these bad qualities instead of just giving up on them and turning against our nation. Pakistan has so many problems - literacy rate, corruption, health standards ... but so does every developing country in the world. I do not deny it and I feel bad about it but does that mean I should start criticizing it? No, I should try to fix it.I have been in western countries since I was very young. I have also met good people and bad ones. I feel that a Pakistani family have more cultural norms and respect than any other average american family. There are good people in pakistan too. Peoples who care. Peoples who understand ur feeling and who make u feel proud of ur country. Being a Pakistani is not a matter of choice as you seem to think. You will always be looked at as a Pakistani, like it or not, and given that basic fact of life you have a simple choice: to hate yourself or to love your true self.

Bewaqoof

Bewaqoof, now you are assuming that i or anyone with a critical outlook is a selfhating pakistani? Just for a fact, not everyone knows about the failures in our society, it is a good first step to highlight it and then make everyone aware of it. THEN we can sit and discuss its solutions as well (they are not as simple as implementing Sharia). And besides, i do not critisise just for the bashing, i bring forth what i see as a wrong doing in our society, its core and its solution.
And i have newer denied that other naitons do not have problems, i discuss with friends India, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Iran ,USA you mention any country about their problems, but as far as i know, this topic is about Pakistan.

[ApHrOdItE]

^^
Critisising a system, does not mean that i have a negative attitude against Pakistan. Highlighting child labour (which is why we lost FIFA football production from Adidas), "hounour" killing, prostitution, domestic violence and you name it, snould not be hidden behind a curtain. It is a crime against those victims if we stand still and do nothing about it, becouse it apparently "brings shame to our glorious nation". I am a firm believer of critisism as a way of means to highlight a problem in order to solve it. And how can you say that i think these problems exists in Pakistan only? As we are talking about pakistan, it is naturally to discuss this issue for Pakistan.

Its probably about time we start thinking of the girls who are beeing pushed into this terrible busness. Why are they forgotten by the polliticians? Where are mullahs to protect these girls? Instead they issue death warrants on them. Why cannot they be daughters of pakistan as Aafia Siddiqui is? And why are these girls looked bad upon and not the real criminals, the men who buy their bodies? Some important questions which should be addressed.

As for sources.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...27-2-2003_pg7_2
http://www.wpro.who.int/NR/rdonlyres/D01A4...ia_July2001.pdf

and tons of material on the internet. And offcourse, if this is a giant zionist conspirasy against Pakistan, then surely all this is just propaganda.

The increasing number of HIV/AIDS patients in Pakistan does also conclude that someone is *******

*APPLAUSE*

[Miss_Capital]

bewakooof@

yes I hear you,u make sense when u said we should also seek for the solutions but the problem is that even if we have found out the solutions than no one is comes forward to implement them.They get all heated up when the debate is going on and each of them acts like a warrior who is obliged to save his country when needed but this is real problem.We need to start gettign things right by now instead of putting it off every passing day.The answer is youth but I dunno how they will be channelized and work together to fight injustice within the masses.

[beewaqoof]

Bewaqoof, now you are assuming that i or anyone with a critical outlook is a selfhating pakistani? Just for a fact, not everyone knows about the failures in our society, it is a good first step to highlight it and then make everyone aware of it. THEN we can sit and discuss its solutions as well (they are not as simple as implementing Sharia). And besides, i do not critisise just for the bashing, i bring forth what i see as a wrong doing in our society, its core and its solution.
And i have newer denied that other naitons do not have problems, i discuss with friends India, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Iran ,USA you mention any country about their problems, but as far as i know, this topic is about Pakistan.

Sir I was not just talking about you but mentality of average paksitani whether they live in pakistan or abroad. Everyone just complains about everything these days. I personally dont criticise something that i cannot correct and I did not like the working conditions in Pakistan (due to many reasons), so I left and came to Abroad. But that does not mean I have a right to bad-mouth Pakistan. The same holds for you or anyone else who live abroad. The eaistest thing to do (as you have) is to sit on your back and critise. I find that Desi people from the UK, USA, Canada etc are mostly doing this. Sir again if you look at topic it was about top rank of pakistan in porn searches and what you and others replied was not logical or related to topic.

Conspiracy i say, A BIG CONSPIRACY agains the land of the PURE.
Probably CIA, Mossad and RAW involved to destroy our atomic programme.

btw. Is there any statistic on how much internet traffic there is from Islamabad, and more specifically the presidents house? He is lonely these days you know

Now where is solution and analysis in this post? I felt sarcasm in your post more than solutions or cause of probelms

again here some more constructive criticism and topic is being discussed

So it means all those molvi's and mullah's got caught?

People in Pakistan use Islam as a facade but behind the curtain its another story.

This post has been edited by beewaqoof: Jul 19 2010, 06:55 PM

[glamourous]

forget the porn searches. who cares? what harm can porn do to a society anyways?

what im worried about is camel sex searches. now i know why pakis are all dying to go to arab countries.

[beewaqoof]

forget the porn searches. who cares? what harm can porn do to a society anyways

Just becuase you like watching porn dont mean it is harmles and dont affect society and relationship..imagine if a guy is porn addict or obsessed with porn then he might expect from his gf or wife to act like this porn star to satisfy all his fanatsies

what im worried about is camel sex searches. now i know why pakis are all dying to go to arab countries.

you are ok with all other animals sex searches lol
its sick and camel

[glamourous]

i dont need to watch porn :/
lol i dont see how thats a problem though?? in islamic society it can be a definite problem though since a man can demand sex from him wife anytime he wants (its even written..)

youre thinking of the worst case scenarios brah. manufacturing and consuming alcohol is legal in america. does every man rape or murder someone after a night out drinking???no
not every guy has those expectations from his partner. assumptions. assumptions assumptions eeeerrywhere


camel sex cuz:

The country has also been No.1 in searches for "sex", "camel sex", "rape video" and "child sex video".

you can have whatever animal you want bro

[Inc0gnito]

You are just jealous Glamourous coz guys would rather go check out a camel than you.

[glamourous]

dont speak for the rest of the guys, brah




^hey thurrz incognito. i go by the name roksana during the day, and caramel fondue at night ^

[Fakiri]

rokzana lol

porn is bad because of the way people in it are treated, alot of the '' stars '' are victims of trafficking and more or less forcefull coersion

[Pakistany_Romeo]

Pakistan is NO 1 in everything

[beewaqoof]

youre thinking of the worst case scenarios brah. manufacturing and consuming alcohol is legal in america. does every man rape or murder someone after a night out drinking???no
not every guy has those expectations from his partner. assumptions. assumptions assumptions eeeerrywhere
camel sex cuz:

Porn may not create a sex addict or pedophile from a normal human, but it sure can't be any help. How many child sex crimes were reported about 10+ years ago say before the internet? I think that the internet may be more to blame than just pornography itself. The internet brought adult filth into the homes of anyone that ever plugged into the world wide web. 10 years ago there was 1,000 adult theaters in the USA and now there are roughly 80 million. Sure there are ways to keep your computer clean but what about Trojan viruses that create a pop-up image or spam email? Those are things you cannot control at first and may subject a small child to entertainment that only adults should view.

how porn affect relationship .You need to open youe eyes to see that how peoples are getting dirty ideas, concept and fanatsies from porn movies. Turning to porn also makes a mind think peoples are less and less satisfied with their spouse because they think that their other half is never perfect and porn bodies always are. Another problem with porn in the relationship is thinking that your sex will be like what you see in a porn movie and that also is unrealistic. All of this contributes to discontent in a marriage which in turn is harmful to society.

you can have whatever animal you want bro

I dont want your doggy. You keep him

This post has been edited by beewaqoof: Jul 20 2010, 06:19 PM

[glamourous]

^ show me statistics of child abuse from 10 years ago.
lol whos looking at the bad aspects of everything now? hippo. the internet has helped the world more than it has harmed it.

uhhh well whose fault is it then? the parents for letting their 11 year old sit on the computer with no privacy settings, or the big bad internet worlds?

okay. so america has 80 million ^adult theaters^ (seirously??i doubt it), what does that prove. youre blaming porn just like mothers blame video games. doesnt prove anything.

why are you assuming that people only watch the super violent kinda porn? lmao there are many other genres

are you basing this on assumptions or do you know people who get ^dirty ideas, concepts and fantasies^??? is this based on personal experience??? right now youre just spewing a whole
lot of nothing based on your assumptions. just like youre assuming all porn is violent.

peoples are less and less satisfied with their spouse because they think that their other half is never perfect and porn bodies always are.

.
lollllll whaaat??? so the normal media isnt responsible for this at all? porn bodies = basically the same bodies we see on regular celebrities. like i said before, youre basing everything on assumptions.

dude wer not all that naive. what we see on lost or gossip girl is fake, and majority of us know whats real and what isnt.
yes all of what youre saying is right if youre talking about how it effects young boys, but when it comes to grown men, im pretty sure they can handle it. theyre not stupid.


show this to a 5 year old they might believe it
show this to a 25 year old theyll laugh

[beewaqoof]

^ show me statistics of child abuse from 10 years ago.

Child porn crimes have risen by 1,500% since 1988 and new internet mobile phones could make things even worse, according to a children's charity.
The internet is largely to blame for the huge rise in child porn offences, according to a report by NCH, formerly National Children's Homes. The charity says 549 child porn offenders were charged or cautioned in 2001, compared with only 35 in 1988.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3387377.stm

The number of websites found to be offering child pornography to UK internet users increased by 75 per cent last year amid fears of an explosion in illegal images generated overseas.

The sharp rise will alarm child protection campaigners and raise concerns that there has been a related increase in the number of people accessing child pornography sites

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/...ildrensservices

Child pornography is becoming increasingly linked to the Internet, which provides new means to produce and distribute images secretly and globally. In its 2006 annual report, the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) reported that there has been a four-fold increase in the number of images involving severe child abuse including sadistic sexual activity. Moreover, there was a 34% increase in the number of reports of child pornography. The report found that 80% of those in the abusive images were female, and 91% were estimated to be less than 12 years of age. Other technological advances are also a factor affecting the proliferation of child pornography. Amateur videos featuring child pornography can be produced cheaply and domestically with portable camcorders, and a ‘cottage industry’ has developed, where child pornography is swapped rather than sold – pushing the industry further underground. Access to an increasingly high volume of child pornography means that paedophiles can become desensitised to images, thus liable to seek further gratification through increasingly disturbing imagery. Law enforcement officials estimate that as many as 50,000 sexual predators are online at any given moment.

http://www.childwise.net/downloads/Child_Pornogprahy.pdf

lol whos looking at the bad aspects of everything now? hippo. the internet has helped the world more than it has harmed it.

Sure you can tell me good aspects of porn to make it balance and how it help peoples to build their character

are you basing this on assumptions or do you know people who get ^dirty ideas, concepts and fantasies^??? is this based on personal experience??? right now youre just spewing a whole
lot.

You dont necessary learn from personal experince but observations and reading researches of experts are also source of knwoledge . I think you dont know the psychology of the individual and how viewing porn can distort peopeles image of sexuality. Do i need to tell you about all these moden ideas and concepts that american peoples have taken from porn and considered normal. Pornography is as addictive as any drug and can potentially destroy a family. you need to do some research and you will find out what i am talking about.

This post has been edited by beewaqoof: Jul 20 2010, 09:54 PM

[glamourous]

duda

the crime rate has risen because of the internet. the more oppurtunities you creat the more sick minded individuals will take advangtage of it. create another platform that can make porn or
anything else easily accessilble, people will take advantage of it.
think of it this way. if there were a lot of abandoned houses in the outskirts of tpwn, people will take advantage of it. theyll turn them into crackshacks. so what are you going to blame?
the fact that there are empty houses in the middle of knowwhere with no supervision or the fact that out of knowwhere, crack has become the choice of drug for everyone???

lmaoo i swear i was going somewhere with that one...

Sure you can tell me good aspects of porn to make it balance and how it help peoples to build their character

-think of it as a how to manual
-helps some people relieve pent up stress
-fills that void for people like incognito
-creates job oppurtunities for people (people in them/behind the scenes)
-gives ideas to improve sex lives - perhaps save marriages from breaking apart

You dont necessary learn from personal experince but observations and reading researches of experts are also source of knwoledge . I think you dont know the psychology of the individual and how viewing porn can distort peopeles image of sexuality. Do i need to tell you about all these moden ideas and concepts that american peoples have taken from porn and considered normal. Pornography is as addictive as any drug and can potentially destroy a family. you need to do some research and you will find out what i am talking about.

growing up watching porn is one thing, but watching it here an there is another thing. if a child is watching porn everyday it is their parents fault. bad pareneing is to be blamed, not porn.
porn isnt even meant to be for children.
youre thinking of extreme cases. when i use terrorists (extremists) as examples of what islam turns people into, dont you guys throw the usual ^but those are not your everyday muslims^ line
at me? think of normal cases, not extreme ones. doing anythinge excessively will have a majorrr negative impact on your lives. (porn, being overly religious etc etc)

Do i need to tell you about all these moden ideas and concepts that american peoples have taken from porn and considered normal.

lol like what?

btw, where did you guys pick up flogging from? kinky


if a person is watching porn 24 hours a day, theyll have some serious psychological problem, no doubt
replace porn with religion, same results.

i win

[Morg]

Sir I was not just talking about you but mentality of average paksitani whether they live in pakistan or abroad. Everyone just complains about everything these days. I personally dont criticise something that i cannot correct and I did not like the working conditions in Pakistan (due to many reasons), so I left and came to Abroad. But that does not mean I have a right to bad-mouth Pakistan. The same holds for you or anyone else who live abroad. The eaistest thing to do (as you have) is to sit on your back and critise. I find that Desi people from the UK, USA, Canada etc are mostly doing this. Sir again if you look at topic it was about top rank of pakistan in porn searches and what you and others replied was not logical or related to topic.
Now where is solution and analysis in this post? I felt sarcasm in your post more than solutions or cause of probelms

again here some more constructive criticism and topic is being discussed

There are several ways of critisising, some do it to highlight a matter, others do it for political purposes, news do it to educate the reader of what is going on. Haters do it just to hate and you do it when you can correct the theme you are critisising. There is no universal or national standard which makes you anti pakistani if you critisise in this or that way. Call it bad mouthing or sitting-on-our-asses-and-critisise,we have different thoughts on what critisism is. I will continue to share what i have of knowledge and thoughts on issues i fint of interest.

I am not serious 100% of the time, if you dont like my sarcasm, then dont bother.

And yes, prostitution in Pakistan have something to do with pakistans rankings on porn searches. Some even deny that prostitution exists in Pakistan, forgetting the fact that the industry is flourishing and women specially are suffering under this industry. In our gender segregated society and the male chauvinism we can look far to find a solution wery soon.

[glamourous]

And yes, prostitution in Pakistan have something to do with pakistans rankings on porn searches. Some even deny that prostitution exists in Pakistan, forgetting the fact that the industry is flourishing and women specially are suffering under this industry. In our gender segregated society and the male chauvinism we can look far to find a solution wery soon.

doubt it

[Morg]

^^ If there is a sex market, porn og prostitution, then they are linked. If consumers wants porn the demand will increase and the producers will import and engage more girls into this field. In a poor country like Pakistan (and lets also include India and Bangladesh) human trafficing is a major way of getting in more girls for videos and prostitution. A crime according to each nations respective law, but in practise the consumers go free and the girls are punished, by society and the court system (the last one is different in rural and urban areas).

[glamourous]

^ thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard loll


thats like comparing the real with the fake...those two dont ever collide

poverty = prostituion
pverty and porn dont mix 0 porn is a luxury

[Morg]

^^ Porn industry is no the same everywhere. I am talking about the industry in Pakistan. In that country there is little free will involved in making such videoes, and they are often linked in the same industry as prostitution.

If thats the dumbest thing you heard, then you have not heard much.

[glamourous]

yeah thats still pretty stupid

prostitution and a lot of things are linked.
whats your point?

[Morg]

Glam, Pakistani porn industry and pakistani prostitution are both connected with human trafficing.

[Pakistany_Romeo]

^ lol @ pakistani porn industry, paksitani porn stars

You are the first one who is telling me that we have porn film industry in pakistan. I agree with glamourous porn has nothing to do with prostitution. There are many high class prostitute who do prostitution not becuase of poverty but they want easy money and like this profession

not all prostitutes want to take part in porn movies or industry

This post has been edited by Pakistany_Romeo: Jul 22 2010, 05:07 PM

[glamourous]

Glam, Pakistani porn industry and pakistani prostitution are both connected with human trafficing.

nah

prove it

[The Bahamamas]

ASTAGFIRULLAH AT ALL THE PPL GOIN BACK N FORTH ABOUT PORN IN THIS THREAD!!!

SHAME ON U ALL!!!