Parachinar Massacre, GRAPHIC IMAGE WARNING Options

[Ali_Imran]

Warning: Graphic Images

So I was waiting for months (considering this has been going on for months now) to see if someone will start a thread on this issue or not as I didn't want to start it cuz' I start to get labels of campaigning for Shiaism or something. But I think it's crossed the limit now.

For literally months now the Taliban Wahabis have litereally picked and butchered the Shias of Parachinar and the government of Pakistan has pretty much done nothing or put a blind eye towards it. The lack of media coverage and insensitivity on the part of the international community is astounding in the context of the so-called global ‘war on terror’.

Finally there is some sort of a protest being held in England, the flyer is here

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10 killed in Parachinar clashes
http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/17/top6.htm

Sectarian clashes in Pakistani tribal area; 30 killed - 17 Nov 2007
SLAMABAD: Fierce battles between Sunni and Shiite Muslims in Pakistan's volatile northwest have left 91 people dead. Combatants used mortars and other heavy weapons in the Shiite-majority town of Parachinar late Saturday and early Sunday.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/18/asia/pakistan.php

Three truck drivers beheaded
http://dawn.com/2007/11/20/top13.htm

28 die before jirga brokers truce in Kurram Agency
http://dawn.com/2007/11/20/top9.htm

Army battling to quell Parachinar clashes
* Eight more die in violence
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...-11-2007_pg1_10

Violence in Parachinar
http://dawn.com/2007/11/23/ed.htm#3

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AFP) â€â€� At least 50 people were killed in renewed sectarian fighting overnight in a remote Pakistani district engulfed by unrest since last week, officials said Saturday.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hA8otW...bmwgmpnBY0YQZPA

KOHAT, Nov 24: The Taliban of Darra Adamkhel backed out of their promise to release all hostages by Friday evening and kept elders and officials waiting in a hall here for the second consecutive day on Saturday.
http://dawn.com/2007/11/25/local32.htm

Nine killed in clashes in Kurram Agency
http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/24/top2.htm

Violence spreads to more areas in Kurram Agency
http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/26/top7.htm

Severe shortage of food, medicines in Parachinar
http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/27/top3.htm

27 killed in Kurram Agency
http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/28/top17.htm

Six killed in Parachinar ambulance ambush
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?198867

Bomb blast, firing kills two, injured 18 in Kurram Agency
http://www.app.com.pk/en_/index.php?option...89&Itemid=2

Attack on convoy sparks clashes in Parachinar
http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/06/top10.htm

1 killed, 3 injured in Kurram Agency
http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=105366

Eight killed in fresh Kurram Agency clashes
Source: The Post - April 13, 2008

Four die in Pakistan gun attack
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7458316.stm

Militants to declare war in Parachinar
http://thepost.com.pk/IsbNewsT.aspx?dtlid=...96&catid=17

Heavy fighting in Kurram after convoy attack: Four drivers, three militants killed
http://www.dawn.com/2008/06/20/top2.htm

Truth Behind Bloody Clashes in Parachinar Kurram Agency

6 Parts. This video clearly discloses the truth of the recent disastrous bloody clashes happened in Parachinar Kurram Agency FATA, Pakistan which were started in April 2007 and then in Nov. & Dec. 2007 and currently started in 6th April 2008 which is still not ceased. The Local & Federal Government of Pakistan is taking no action against the extremist elements (so-called Taliban) which are voilating the peaceful environment of Heaven Like Valley. "Parachinar, Kurram Agency"

Part 1: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF6J678HbE
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/v/C0D_gjbV5l4&hl=en
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/v/YkQ7DLwJ-Pk&hl=en
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/v/jITTLjj8hWM&hl=en
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/v/2VFXNJJ7t6o&hl=en
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/v/gnx6qg6k3Xs&hl=en


Just thought I'd share with the forum what has been going on for the past couple of months.

This post has been edited by Musiqlover: Jul 9 2008, 11:56 AM

Reason for edit: [IMG] tags removed as per author request.

[.::Tooty_Frooty:...]

I watched the video yesterday...Its heartbreaking and dissapointing to see the government do nothing about it!...

May God bless these martyrs and give patience to their families and the whole parachinar community who are suffering at the hands of these oppressors.

Ali maybe you should take the pics off

[Rizwan_NY]

Yo buddy! take this pics off guy this is way to graphic in this forum were younge girls and boys come, I request this to the Moderators as well. Thanks for posting the news though.

[Ali_Imran]

Reality of today's Yazeed needs to be exposed.

Leave the picture links up, remove the [img] tags

This post has been edited by Ali_Imran: Jul 7 2008, 11:59 AM

[Ayesha_786]

Astaghfirullah.
But Ali i agree with tooty frooty . we can understand the gravity of situaton without pics as well. Better if u remove them.

[Morg]

the tribal areas needs to be under martial rule, and militants needs to be chased till death or put forth on trial. this cannot be acceptable, not becouse they are shias, but becouse they are pakistanis and human beeings!!

[Blade Faerie]

wow please remove those pix.. too much graphic.. omg i almost threw up.. i dont have a strong stomach to see stuff like that


i m a shia and its sad seeing things like that some Muslims are so horrible they just want a reason to fight among eachother.. if they think doing this makes 'em look good in front of God's eyes they are sooo wrong..

[Inc0gnito]

Alright We get it. Someone's going around killing Shias in Afghanistan.

[Ali_Imran]

the tribal areas needs to be under martial rule, and militants needs to be chased till death or put forth on trial. this cannot be acceptable, not becouse they are shias, but becouse they are pakistanis and human beeings!!

Morg I think you should read these two articles. Sipah-e-Sahaba is back but this time they have changed their name to Ahle Sunnat wa Aljamaat Pakistan (ASWJP). So now they are trying to play new games and using new tactics by changing their name so that they can try to get acceptance as some sort of a mainstream organization. Expect more Shia, Ahmadi, Christians etc killings to start all over again all over Pakistan. At least Musharaf had these scums banned.

Thousands turn up for Sipah-e-Sahaba gathering

By Fareed Farooqui
June 28, 2008
dailytimes.com.pk

KARACHI: An estimated 8,000 men, mostly young ones, gathered at Qayumabad Thursday night for a ‘Jansaran-e-Muhammad Conference’ organized by the banned Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) at B-Area Korangi Road in Qayumabad on Thursday night.

The conference was organized by the SSP, which has been named the Ahle Sunnat wa Aljamaat Pakistan (ASWJP), and Seerat-e-Mustafa Committee. It started after Isha prayers and ended before Fajr. A rally started from Qayumabad and ended at the main Korangi road before the participants sat down. The arrangements for the conference were made on the main road and all the link roads and main streets were blocked off with tents. There was frisking at the three main entrances and SSP activists were seen on the rooftops. SSP workers with weapons were also seen at different spots. The stage was built with three trucks at the centre of the road and two police mobiles were seen to the side.

The conference was started with the recitation of the Holy Quran by Qari Kahlil Ahmed, followed by poetry praising the Companions of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) by Masub Farooque of Rawalpindi.

The SSP/ ASWJP central vice president Maulana Masoodur Rehman Usmani condemned the government for not announcing Youm-e-Siddique-e-Akbar (R.A) a national holiday.

“It is obligatory to announce ‘Quaid-e-Azam day’ as the national day because he strived for the independence of Pakistan but ‘Youm-e-Siddique-e-Akbar’ is not being observed even though Muslims received Islam and Islamic preaching from Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique (R.A),” urged Usmani. Pakistani Muslims ask the government if it accepts the greatness of Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique (R.A)? And if so, then why is the day’s importance being ignored, he questioned.

Usmani also demanded holidays for Hazrat Umar (R.A), Hazrat Usman (R.A), Hazrat Ali (R.A) and Hazrat Maviya (R.A). “The Sahaba (R.A) (the Companions of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H)) were the ‘Janisaran-e-Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) and we are the Janisaran-e-Sahaba (R.A). The world saw that nobody could stop the Companions of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) from right path and we will not be stopped from the right path too,” said the SSP Sindh VP Maulana Aurangzaib Farooqui.

SSP central leader Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Nadeem, SSP patron for Sindh Maulana Allah Wasaya, secretary information for Sindh Qari Shafiqur Rehman, Mian Ilyas Rasheed, Aleemur Rehman, Maulan Tariq Masood also spoke.

SSP chief Maulana Ahmed Ludhyanvi did not attend. Maulana Nadeem told Daily Times that he had to come from Faisalabad to Karachi but could not reach the airport and missed his flight.

Protests held: The SSP-ASWJP also held a protest demonstration while observing Youm-e-Shahadat (the day of martyrdom) of Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique (R.A) after Jumma prayers at Jaama Masjid Siddique-e-Akbar at Nagan Chowrangi in North Karachi Friday.

Addressing the big congregation, the central information secretary of the SSP and ASWJP, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Nadeem, said that Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique (R.A) was a great personality.

“If the Sunni people showed such unity and observed Youm-e-Siddique-e-Akbar (R.A) like this, the government would accept our demand one day,” said Maulana Aurangzaib Farooqui.

The leader of the SSP and ASWJP, Engineer Ilyas Zubair, said that a majority of the Ahle Sunnat people wanted the day a national holiday. “Therefore, it is the obligation of the government to accept the demand and announce the 22nd of Jamadi-us-Saani a national holiday. This is the right demand of the SSP and ASWJP because all Muslims, including the people belonging to the Deobandi, Barehlvi and Ahle Hadith demand this collectively.” The protest was also addressed by Maulana Ahsanullah Farooqui, Qari Shafiq ur Rehman, Mufti Zeeshan, Maulana Ikhlaque Maviya.

The SSP/ASWJP asked the local administration and the Sindh government for permission to hold a ‘Siddique-e-Akbar rally’ from Lasbela Chowk to Numaish Chowrangi. Sources said, however, that the NOC was not given for a rally due to security reasons. The SSP/ASWJP then decided to hold it at Nagan Chowrangi.
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Banned SSP gets new name, gets back to work

* Urges Sunnis to close businesses on 27th to mark Hazrat Abu Bakar (R.A)’s martyrdom

By Fareed Farooqui
June 25, 2008
dailytimes.com.pk

KARACHI: The banned Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) has once again rolled up its sleeves and started getting active across Pakistan, and especially in Karachi, but with a new name Ahle Sunnat wa Aljamaat Pakistan (ASWJP) which roughly translates into The Sunni Party.

It has started by requesting Sunni people to voluntarily shut down their businesses and offices on Youm-e-Shahdat (the day of martyrdom) of Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique (R.A) on the 22nd of Jumadi-Uthani, June 27. Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique (R.A) was one of the closest companions of Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H). He was also the first Caliph in Madina when the first Islamic government was established.

The central information secretary of the SSP and ASWJP, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Nadeem, told Daily Times on Tuesday that they had started work in the name of the ASWJP because of the ban on the SSP. “The case against the ban is in court,” he added.

The ASWJP has planned programs across the country, including Karachi city, on Youm-e-Siddique-e-Akbar (R.A). Instructions have been given its activists.

Maulana Nadeem said that Sunni people should put up signs at their workplaces saying, ‘The shop/office is closed on 22 Jumadi-Uthani (June 27) on Youm-e-Siddique-e-Akbar (R.A)’. The party has started distributing handbills among people and letters to business communities and traders. They have, Maulana Nadeem added, assured us that the shops and offices would be closed on June 27.

A central ‘Siddique-e-Akbar Conference’ would be organized on June 26 after Isha prayers at Qayumabad by the SSP and ASWJP where the chief of the ASWJP, Maulana Ahmed Ludhianvi, and others would address the audience.

A ‘Siddique-e-Akbar (R.A) rally’ would be organized on June 27 after Jumma prayers from Lasbela to Numaish Chowrangi. The SSP was banned in 2002 by the government and most of its leaders were arrested. The leaders were released in 2003-04 and started limited work under ASWJP. It organized a rally in April 2008 in Karachi after surfacing after six years.

Source: http://sipah-e-sahaba.pakistangovpk.com/20...rar_ahmed_.aspx

[safir]

It is really sad to see that we Muslims have become such butchers. These people claim to be Muslims but do everything which is against the teachings of Islam. Its a shame. No wonder Muslims are being portrayed as terrorists and lawless people all over the world. I think its about time that all these so called radical religious parties are banned.

[glamourous]

dude, post f[kking links instead of posting the real pictures.

that's pretty disgusting and there is no way we can avoid looking at them if we're trying to read the article.

now i'm not interested in replying...and you should feel ashamed.

[tharilist786]

fitna is the saddest thing to happen to us, and will remain to be...=(

[Janaat]

May God bless these martyrs and give patience to their families and the whole parachinar community who are suffering at the hands of these oppressors.

ameen..this is making me so sad..the govn't should look into this issue

[SummerX]

EWW. ali could you take these picture off please. may Allah give these shuhdaas highest place in heaven. Revenge will be taken against talibans and who support them. Ya Ali Madad.

This post has been edited by SummerX: Jul 8 2008, 11:25 PM

[desiplease]

f**k man now i'm going 2 go to sleep thanks..very sick people in this world. They are not people any more they are sub-humans.

[B-2_Spirit]

Take pics off please.....remove the tags at least. this is disturbing

[glamourous]

Ali Imran is crying for attention and sympathy by posting these pictures.

[Ali_Imran]

Are you guys blind? This is what I wrote:

Leave the picture links up, remove the [img] tags

Is it my fault no mod has read this thread yet!? Only forum that even had a problem with the images, I think some of you guys should wake up and smell the coffee already. If you guys can't even handle this then I feel sorry for you guys because there is far worse things going on and very evidently the world doesn't understand the extent by just 'hearing' or 'reading' about it.

Ali Imran is crying for attention and sympathy by posting these pictures.

I wasn't expecting any sympathy from a moron like you who has no purpose in life, that's for sure.

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the tribal areas needs to be under martial rule, and militants needs to be chased till death or put forth on trial. this cannot be acceptable, not becouse they are shias, but becouse they are pakistanis and human beeings!!

Now that Musharaf doesn't have that much control or authority, the Pakistani government has always tolerated these Wahhabi, pro-Taliban groups in fact in the past they are the ones that had help them get into the position that they are now and again it is happening. The banned group SSP is back as well now, and just a few days ago another high profile Shia lawer and doctor were killed. The government once again like in the past is ignoring this and as I said before, so is the media. These groups in the past have shown to not even spare certain Sunni sects or schools of thoughts and if worse comes to worse again they won't hesitate to turn their weapons on them again either.

This post has been edited by Ali_Imran: Jul 9 2008, 10:22 AM

[Mastermind]

so you're implying that the govt of pakistan only consists of sunni or wahhabi people and that they like to kill shia peoples?

you should know that:
creating a thread here will not change the "govt of pakistan"......it will only create anger between the people of different sects here.

if you want to change the govt you should go to pakistan and raise you voice there or something, rather than on a forum where people come for dating/relationships/msn/facebook chatting or looking at each other's pics without their parents consents all this while they pretend to be super pious muslims

paki muslims are by name only in today's world.....and thats a fact....accept it bud.
we're all going downhill Ali, including you man

This post has been edited by Mastermind: Jul 9 2008, 11:23 AM

[Ali_Imran]

so you're implying that the govt of pakistan only consists of sunni or wahhabi people and that they like to kill shia peoples?

I'm saying that at least when Musharaf (who is not a Shia) was in power over the past few years, these killings had been on the down low, but now that things have changed again these killings have started once more as the governments of the past had helped these Pro-Taliban people become strong alongside Western powers and now again they have turned a blind eye towards them. I never made this thread to change the government of Pakistan, I made it to create awareness to an issue which has barely gotten any attention by the Pakistani media or the international media and it is happening in our own backyard. And hell yeah Wahabis like to kill Shia people and they are very open about it as well. In Pakistan this is blatant genocide for the past few decades and you tell me what has been done by the past governing bodies to prevent such things.

This post has been edited by Ali_Imran: Jul 9 2008, 12:05 PM

[Shahrose Khan]

WTF

how could we all tolerate something like this?!

dammit... don't wahabis know that for murdering a person, your punishment is also supposed to be death!

Astagfirulla... bloody terrorists should be hanged to death!

[glamourous]

I wasn't expecting any sympathy from a moron like you who has no purpose in life, that's for sure.

Now i know why you want to see pictures of poor innocent dead Jews....because you get a kick out of it, you sadistic f.

gross.

[Inc0gnito]

I wonder what the Shias did or didn't do to piss off these guys.

[glamourous]

^ they didn't do anything...it was all gods fault for making Shia's 100X's prettier then the average human being.

:'(

[Mastermind]

I'm saying that at least when Musharaf (who is not a Shia) was in power over the past few years, these killings had been on the down low, but now that things have changed again these killings have started once more as the governments of the past had helped these Pro-Taliban people become strong alongside Western powers and now again they have turned a blind eye towards them. I never made this thread to change the government of Pakistan, I made it to create awareness to an issue which has barely gotten any attention by the Pakistani media or the international media and it is happening in our own backyard. And hell yeah Wahabis like to kill Shia people and they are very open about it as well. In Pakistan this is blatant genocide for the past few decades and you tell me what has been done by the past governing bodies to prevent such things.

Isnt most of media in pakistan owned/operated by shia people? I thought it was!
and well, the current govt is PPP which is being run by zardari & co, and they're Shia.
so perhaps you should contact them and raise "awareness".
Posting it here WILL NOT get you any attention from pakistani media.
All you're doing is creating rift between Sunni and Shia people, i doubt if MP has any taliban wahabi's

sponsor your family Ali, sponsor them to bring em to canada and support them

[Morg]

i would agree with Ali on the musharraf part. since he is gone there has been a softer approach towards extremists, who are of the radical grouping within the peaceful salafi movement in the sunni sect of islam. musharraf himself is a deobandi sunni, which is closely assosiated with the Jamaat e islami, but as many knows he is moderate. nawaz sharif is a deobandi as well (tablighi jamaat) and is a supporter of the islamist parties who tend to have radical thinkings, this in turn has given the PPP a dillema, as the Bhutto-zardari family is shia ithna ashari (liberals) and the current prime minister also is of a famous shia family (descending from musa pak, who again is descending from a hanbali sheikh abdul qadir jillani), the PML-N tried to force PPP towards dialogue with extremists with weapons, while PPP wants a musharraf legacy, if PPP turns away from military opreration (becoue dialogue has failed) then surely extremists have won, and zia ul haqs legacy once again get a rice, but if PPP cooperated with the army, and musharraf they will have a short term blaming from the awaam (becouse nawaz sharif is mastermind in manipulating awaam) but in long term, it will give pakistan a stable ground.

i hope in future that extremists dont find a safe heaven in pakistan, and that sunnis (sufis and salafis) and shias (usoolis and akbaris) find peace with themselves on pakistani soil. our nation were built on the basis of religion, but only becouse our leaders thought they could not survive with a hindu majority, mr.jinnah NEWER wanted a theocraty neither any involvement from the ullamas in the excecutive branch. PML-N is thereby not representing the early PML, ...neither does some members of the PML-Q.

[Ali_Imran]

I wonder what the Shias did or didn't do to piss off these guys.

If you read the history of Bani Ummayah and history of Karbala, you'll see that worse type of torture had taken place on the family of the Prophet (P). If these extremists are going to be same Yazeed loving animals preying on blood of humans then I don't know what you are still wondering about. Same nasal, same kartoot.

Isnt most of media in pakistan owned/operated by shia people? I thought it was!

How is most of the Pakistani media own3d by Shias , can you name some TV news channels owned by Shias in Pakistan and who the owners are. And do you honestly think PPP being Shias (they are actually mixture) has actually mattered, I don't see what they have done that makes them look so Shia. Benazir's Janazah was led by a Sunni. They don't have a Shia agenda, they are of a feudalistic nature. Why do you think I'm creating rift between Shias and Sunnis. If I go condemn a Zionist does it mean I'm creating rift between Muslims and the anti-Zion Jews? If the Sunnis are against Wahabis then what's the rift about. Why you getting so worried if I have finally made a thread after 8 months of this incident happening? I highly doubt you'd be saying this if a genocide was happening on the Sunnis. What the hell has the news media of Pakistan been barking for the past couple of months, besides Waqeel Waqeel Waqeel. Khotay da sar koee aur gal vi dasso. You are basically telling me I shouldn't have made this thread because it is a genocide being carried out by Wahabis and somehow the Sunnis are going to get offended by this fact and there will be a rift between Shias and Sunnis on this forum. Wow, great. If there are no Taliban wahabis on this forum then where did a Sunni rift come from, unless you want to accept Wahabis as mainstream Sunnis. I have always clearly distincted between Wahabis and Sunnis on this forum.

Anyways I'm glad I made this thread, these Nasibi animals in Pakistan who have caused havoc not just in Pakistan but all over the world, need to be exposed to the max.

i would agree with Ali on the musharraf part. since he is gone there has been a softer approach towards extremists

When Musharaf was in power it was perhaps one of the few times that these people actually got a beating. Very frankly I've now had enough of them.

This post has been edited by Ali_Imran: Jul 10 2008, 10:58 PM

[Morg]

bro ali, wahabis as you call it, are salafis and are within the sunni sect of islam. either other traditional sunnis believe it or not.

but i am quite worried about some comments left here who rather seeks out a "reason" for why these shia people were killed. it should be obious that people should not be treated this way!

[Radiance]

*sigh*

There was a reason why I dont like coming into these sections and now i remember

[modern_newton]

It is sad no matter who have done this..This killing of suni vs shia or shia vs sunni has long history in pakisan and should stop now

bro ali, wahabis as you call it, are salafis and are within the sunni sect of islam. either other traditional sunnis believe it or not.

Agree
You said Musharaf is deboundi sunni but Talibaans are also deobundi(Ali they are not Wahabi)

This post has been edited by modern_newton: Jul 11 2008, 12:53 PM