Halal / Haram Food, Queries & Information Options

[NightmareGirl]

Salam all,

I thought instead of starting diff threads (in diff sections) about which food is halal or haram.. let's put it all in here... don't simply copy paste long fatwas in here.. but just a place to discuss foods, food places, and ingredients.

This post has been edited by NightmareGirl: Nov 21 2006, 08:35 PM

[Ali_Imran]

Which food is halal as in chicken, lamb etc. or which food is halal as in Crescent, meat from Super Bazaar and Karachi Bazaar?

[Aisha_007]

Smoothies from Dunkin Donuts contain gelatin

[Kish Mish]

So most gums are Haram... : (

[sehar jee]

i have a question...is kosher gelatin haraam too??

[NightmareGirl]

sorry sorry sorry guys i took wat i said before back

I just talked to my ex-roomate who is a jew and she told me that Fish is Kosher but not other seafood like lobster, shrimps etc etc .. therefore Gelatin made from fish is kosher as well as halal... having said that.. about gum .. check this:

Following info is from Wrigley Jr. Company's website
Are your products Kosher?
Our products are not currently kosher certified, and we are not aware of any plans to begin certifying them at this time.

Wirgley Jr. Company's products include:







there are too many... click on this link to see all of their products Lhttp://www.wrigley.com/wrigley/products/products_index.asp

so yes these are all Haram


and.....my Canadian Excel-lover friends... check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excel_(gum)
so i suppose this makes Excel haram as well


also:
Is Trident® kosher?
Trident®is not kosher.
http://www.tridentgum.com/faq.html

This post has been edited by NightmareGirl: Nov 22 2006, 10:30 PM

[VipeR]

^^der r some items that say kosher gelatin...in which they mean its vegetable!

[sehar jee]

i have this stawberry yogurt and it says kosher gelatine....
what to do??

[iqraa1991]

gum is haram?
since when?

[Ali_Imran]

^Gum that'll have haram gelatin in it..

[Radiance]

I heard strawberry milk shakes from Mcy D's is haraam

and doritos

This post has been edited by Radiance: Nov 24 2006, 10:52 AM

[NightmareGirl]

^

Strawberry Triple Thick® Shake:
Shake Mix: Whole milk, sucrose, cream, nonfat milk solids, corn syrup solids, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, imitation vanilla flavor, carrageenan, cellulose gum, vitamin A palmitate. Contains milk ingredients. Strawberry Syrup: Sugar, strawberries, water, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, natural (vegetable source) and artificial flavors, pectin, citric acid, xanthan gum, potassium sorbate (a preservative), caramel color, FD&C Red #40, calcium chloride. May contain small amounts of other shake flavors served at the restaurant, including egg ingredients when Egg Nog Shakes are available.
Source: http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nu...ents.index.html

mono and diglycerides:
Mono and diglycerides come from animal or vegetable sources. When they come from vegetable sources, they are Halal. When they come from animal sources, they may be Haram. More information is needed to find out if they are Halal. If the mono and diglycerides come from an animal that is slaughtered according to Islamic law (Zabihah), and the preparation that follows is Halal, then they are Halal. Halal consumers should avoid products containing mono and diglycerides unless they are labelled as 100% vegetable mono and diglycerides.
Source: http://www.toronto.ca/health/nm_faq_halal_foods.htm


for Doritos (or Cheetos, Cracker Jack, Fritos, Funyuns, Grandma's, Lay's, Lay's STAX, Munchies Snack Mix, Rold Gold, Ruffles, Sunchips
, Tostitos) they don't have any info online.. i think the best thing to do would be to look up the exact product online (cuz they have soooo many .. like even within doritos there are many variations) and then call em n ask em bout the specific product... if anyone calls it would be nice if you guys share it here with the rest

Kosher
For more information about which Frito-Lay products are Kosher certified, please call our Consumer Affairs hotline at 1-800-352-4477, Monday through Friday, 9am to 4:30 pm, Central Standard Time.
Source: http://frito-lay.com/fl/flstore/cgi-bin/Pr...ot_361691.htm#7

This post has been edited by NightmareGirl: Nov 24 2006, 03:11 PM

[mahi_ve]

wah bout starbust.. as in the sweets?
i heard they got alcohal in them

[NightmareGirl]

i heard they got alcohal in them

"...it is not alcohol, but, in fact, intoxicating liquor, which the Shari`ah prohibits the Muslims to drink. Thus, when the intoxicating feature of liquor is removed from it through the process of cooking, then the food so prepared, would not come under the ambit of the prohibitions of the Shari`ah.
Yes. A person may, however, take to refraining from consuming such food, of his personal choice. Nevertheless, under the stated circumstances, the food should not be termed as Haraam."

http://understanding-islam.org

[Paki_07]

but if the wrigleys gum is haram, how come it doesnt say 'gelatin' in the ingredients?

[NightmareGirl]

^ yeah since there was no gelatin in it i also thought (till now) that it's halal.. but their website says it's not... u can always call em to ask exactly which ingrident in it is haram

[mahi_ve]

the food should not be termed as Haraam."

wicked.
no wonder they keep me awake in lessons.

[Paki_07]

^ yeah since there was no gelatin in it i also thought (till now) that it's halal.. but their website says it's not... u can always call em to ask exactly which ingrident in it is haram

oh ok...
hmmm...well is stride gum halal?
coz i just checked the ingredients on the package
and it doesnt look like anything in there could be haram

[kOrI*pUnJaBan]

got this in mail. thought i should share hasnt been formatted so read ur way through.
INFORMATION ABOUT INGREDIENTS ON FOODS, TOOTHPASTE, SOAP ETC.
INTRODUCTION
We hope that this information will be of great use to you and that you will read the ingredient on every product before you make your purchase. If in doubt, you may write to the company.
CONSULTATION OF COMPANIES
Here are the results of consultations done with various food companies. No particular questions were asked about products that may contain alcohol.
1. L.D. Schrieber Cheese Company:
No shortening, lard, gelatin or lecithin used. Cow products are used HALAL
Burger King Corporation:
Shortening used in from swine = HARAM
Lard is used in buns and apple pie = HARAM
Lecithin is used in buns =HARAM (Because you are not sure)
Shakes = HALAL
General Goods:
Lard is used on Swan Down Cake mixes. Gelatin (from collagen-bearing tissues of any animal) is used in many products including Jell-O Brad Gelatin Desert = HARAM
Knox Gelatin Inc.:
Knox Gelatin is prepared from the protein collagen, which is extracted from either beef (bones and skin) or PORK (SKINS) =HARAM
American Lecithin Company:
Our lecithin is derived from soybeans and is sold under the trade name Alcoles = HALAL
Nestle:
A list was sent to MSA confirming that their products do not contain any animal by-product. Lecithin used in their products is derived from Soybeans = HALAL
General Mills Inc.:
Shortening similar to lard is used, also Soya lecithin is used =HARAM
(Because it does not say Soya or lard and you don't know so it is better to avoid)
Quaker Oats:
Soybean lecithin is used. Shortening used is from swine. Some of the products are MASA Trigo, Flako pie crust and cup cake mix.

SEVERAL TERMS
A. Derived from pork or other animal HARAM
Bacon
Ham
Sausage
Lard
Fat
Gelatin
Shortening (animal).

B. Avoid - doubtful (may be derived from animal or vegetable):
Lecithin
Emulsifier
Dough conditioners
Mono and diglycerides
Enzymes or rennet in cheese

C. You can use: HALAL
Soya-lecithin
Soybean lecithin
Vegetable lecithin
Vegetable shortening
Vegetable mono and diglyceriders
Vegetable enzymes or rennetless cheese.
Fish.

D. Avoid may contain alcohol
Artificial and imitation extracts and flavorings

E. When you see these letters:

"U" or "K" they may mean that the produce does not contain anything from an animal.

AVOID THE FOLLOWING AS THEY MAY CONTAIN ALCOHOL:
Artificial and Imitation extracts and Flavorings.
MISCELLANEOUS FOOD ITEMS
Manufacturer /Vendor Brand Coagulant/Ingredien ts Use
Kellog Co. Frosted Pop Tarts Type-B Gelatin
(Vegetable/Beef) Investigate
Unfrosted Pop Tarts No Gelatin HALAL
Frank Foods QT Frosting mix Vegetable fat (Shortening) HALAL
General Mills Inc. Ready-to-Spread
Frosting
Vegetable fat/or Lard HARAM
Proctor & Gamble Duncan Hines
Cake Mix &
Pringles
Vegetable fat HALAL
Great Atlantic & Pacific Co.
A&P Creamer
Coconut & Palm Oil HALAL
Topco Assoc. Inc. Food Club Non Dairy Creamer
Vegetable fat HALAL
Dietary Creamer Vegetable Fat HALAL
Penn Maid Food Inc. Natural Yogurt No Gelatin HALAL
Swiss Yogurt Gelatin from Calf skin HARAM
Jolly Rancher Candies Palm & Coconut Oil HALAL
M & M Co. Starburst fruit Chews Gelatin from Lard HARAM
American Home Foods Crunch 'N' Munch Vegetable Fat HALAL


DISINFECTANT
Manufacturer /Vendor Brand Coagulant/Ingredien ts Use
Lehn & Fink Products
Lyson Brand All products Synthetic chemicals HALAL


BREAD AND PASTRY
Manufacturer /Vendor Brand Coagulant/Ingredien ts Use
Drake Bakeries (Div. Of Borden foods Inc.) Honey bun Lard HARAM
Entenmanns All Products Vegetable Shortening HALAL
Giants Goods Bread Vegetable Shortening HALAL
Huber Baking Co. (Bakers Of sunshine Bread) Roman Meal Bread Soybean Salad oil HALAL
Keebler All products Vegetable Shortening
Oleo and Lard HARAM
Nabisco All Products Lard HARAM
Pepperidge farm Rolls, Bread, Butter or Cakes* Vegetable shortening HALAL
* NOTE:
Layer cakes even though this cake is made with good shortening the GELATIN USED is made from PIGSKIN HARAM
Pillsbury Co. 1896/69 Brand Butter, Milk Biscuit Vegetable shortening HALAL
Stroehmann Brothers Co Hillbilly Bread
White Bread Lard HARAM
Sunshine Biscuit Co. All products Vegetable shortening HALAL

ICE CREAM
Manufacturer Product Use
Baskin Robbins Ice Cream, Sherbets, Water ice
NOTE: Ice cream and those flavors Containing might marshmallow HALAL
HARAM
Pensupreme Ice Cream HARAM
Pensupreme schraff Ice cream (available at safeway) HALAL
Meadow Gold Ice cream HALAL
Meadow Gold Louis sherry Ice cream (all natural) HALAL
Abbotts Ice Cream, Sherbets, Water ice HALAL
Pantry Pride Ice cream HALAL
Breyers Ice cream HALAL

CHEWING GUM
Manufacturer /Vendor Brand Coagulant/Ingredien ts Use
Dynamint Co. Dynamints Candelilla Wax HALAL
Wrigley's Co. Chewing gum 100% mineral or Vegetable base HALAL
Warner Lambert Co. Chewing Gum
Chicklets Dentyne Trident
Freshen Up Vegetable base HALAL
Beach Nut Chewing Gum Glcerl Monosterate Or Ester of Gum from any animal fat HARAM

FROZEN PIZZA PIES
Manufacturer /Vendor Brand Coagulant/Ingredien ts Use
Jan's Mozzarella Cheese Vegetable HALAL
Buitoni Mozzarella Cheese Vegetable HALAL
Little Chef Mozzarella Cheese Vegetable HALAL
Ellio's Cheddar Cheese Swine pepsin HARAM
Quaker Celeste Mozzarella Cheese Swine pepsin HARAM

[iqraa1991]

umm yea thx for posting it..
I heard or read somewhere that doritos is haram?

[desi_nasha]

Ignorance is Bliss.

[notdatgrl33]

somebody told me winterfresh is haram

[glamourous]

There is such a thing as cow gelatin.

[Dare2Dream]

There is such a thing as cow gelatin.

That may not be the correct notation, but I've called Kraft and General Mills about their cereals that contain marshmellows and both told me that the source of gelatin included pork based. On the other hand, when I inquired about skittles, I was told they are non-pork gelatin (based on beef/cow and goat etc.).

I believe gelatin can be obtained from the bones of any animal, however, if you know more details, it would certainly help us all.

[nyangel21]

i look for the little K

[NightmareGirl]

I believe gelatin can be obtained from the bones of any animal, however, if you know more details, it would certainly help us all.

but what good it would be if from other animals but still not zabiha ones?
we should ask em if their gelatin is from fish or other animals

[Dare2Dream]

but what good it would be if from other animals but still not zabiha ones?
we should ask em if their gelatin is from fish or other animals

well, pork based is haram. However, non-zabiha is a totally different case. There are many respected Muslim scholars who say eating from ahl-kitab chicken/beef is allowed, so it's basically an issue on which there is a valid difference of opinion. So basically non-zabiha is not the same category as pork. So Muslims eat non-zabiha while others don't, it's a whole other discussion topic.

This post has been edited by Dare2Dream: Jan 23 2007, 10:38 PM

[NightmareGirl]

Some muslims don't eat pork but drink Alcohol... both still fall under the category of "haram"

[Radiance]

So basically non-zabiha is not the same category as pork.

There are cetain steps u must take b4 u can eat non-zabiha ... by non-zabiha ... r u referring to slaughtered animals but not under islamic conditions? .. If so ... then u can eat it if and only if there is no way u can obtain halaal meat or koshir meat. If ur referring to obtaining gelatin from non-zabiha as in the animal is still alive ... then any gelatin u obtain from the the animals we are allowed to consume is permissible ...

hope that made sense

[modern_newton]

Some muslims don't eat pork but drink Alcohol... both still fall under the category of "haram"

selling,buying (for someone else) ,serving alcohal is haram mentioned in Islamic sources Is it apply to Pork as well