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Apr 25 2006, 04:12 AM
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SAAB indicate deal with Pakistan concluded
April 25 2006 at 4:23 AM Europa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today in the financial report SAAB told reporters the deal with Pakistan on Surveillance systems and VIP transport is more or less concluded. It was a bit unsure how it would pan out after the earthquake but still the value of the deal mentioned today is 8.3 Billion Swedish Kr (US$1.1) indicating the original deal of 14 planes is still valid. 7 Saab 2000 AEWC with EriEye 7 Saab 2000 VIP Some information http://products.saabgroup.com/PDBWebNew/Ge...&ProductId=1313 http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/saab_2000/ "The Saab 2000 is a unique aircraft. It delivers jet speed with turboprop economy. Equipped with 50 business class seats in a comfortable, spacious and unexpectedly quiet cabin, this modern airplane is the most flexible, high technology regional aircraft in the world" 5 Operator stations 450 km detection range, 350km against normal fighter jet. Electronic Active Phase Array PS-890 Radar with very high refresh rate of objects. 9 hours endurance time in the air. Independant Command & control or part of a large network Low operating costs and high reliability in all weathers Capable of counting docked ships. Guide (anti-ship) missiles without revealing the position of the launch platform. ![]() ![]()
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Apr 25 2006, 12:16 PM
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F-16 tops agenda of talks in Washington
http://dawn.com/2006/04/24/top5.htm F-16 tops agenda of talks in Washington ISLAMABAD, April 23: The Pakistan-US Defence Consultative Group will meet in Washington on April 30 to discuss security issues, including procurement of F-16 jets. Islamabad has apparently indicated to the US the number of F-16 aircraft it wants to acquire. The order includes both new and used F-16s besides upgradation of the ones Pakistan has. The meeting to be held at the Pentagon headquarters will be presided over by Defence Secretary Tariq Wasim Ghazi and US Under-Secretary of State for Defence Eric Edleman. Pakistan’s delegation will include top military and civilian officials. The meeting will take place two days after the inaugural session of the Pakistan-US strategic dialogue in Washington. In the backdrop of Indo-US nuclear deal and India’s massive defence weapons acquisition programme, Pakistan will press ahead with its demand for new military equipment. This would include defensive weapons systems to enhance Pakistan’s conventional capabilities, sources told Dawn. Besides reviewing progress of bilateral military cooperation, the group would identify and plan new activities, they said. The two sides would discuss security issues affecting their relations, it is learnt. “They will have an exchange of views on counter-terrorism operations, security challenges in Afghanistan and tension along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border areas, the situation in South Asia, Iranian nuclear issue, terrorism threat, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and the Middle East,” sources said. This post has been edited by MJ2k4: Apr 25 2006, 12:17 PM -------------------- I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. .. no i wont.. |
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Apr 25 2006, 09:52 PM
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Agosta-90B Submarine To Be Supplied By France
From Rahul Bedi DH News Service New Delhi: French armament conglomerate Direction Des Construction Navales (DCN) — closely involved in the recent Rs 16,000 crore sale of six Scorpene submarines to the Indian Navy — has reportedly completed initial designs for a new conventional submarine type that it plans to offer to Pakistan. According to Jane’s Defence Weekly of the UK, the French naval builders, combat systems maker and engineering group was considering responding to the Pakistan Navy’s (PN) requirement for at least five new submarines. But it awaited formal clearance from Paris before making Islamabad the offer. Applications by several French armament manufacturers, including DCN to sell military hardware to Pakistan were reportedly being vetoed by the country’s high-powered defence sales panel on the grounds that such transactions could exacerbate tensions between New Delhi and Islamabad and trigger off an arms race. Armament industry executives said French defence companies were also “acutely conscious” of the potentially large market India represented and Delhi’s sensitivities regarding weapon sales to Pakistan. This, in turn, prompted circumspection on their part as well as that of the French establishment in all such dealings with Islamabad. In its January 18 issue, Jane’s stated that the design being developed by the DCN, designated Marlin, drew extensively on the technology developed for the export-oriented Scorpene submarine programme. But while the Scorpene, offered to the Indian Navy, was designed in conjunction with Spanish shipbuilder Navantia, DCN is believed to be pursuing the Marlin design as an independent venture. The Scorpenes were sold to the Indian Navy last October by Armaris which was a joint venture between the DCN and Thales, another French defence conglomerate. Earlier in 1994, the DCN had supplied the PN three Agosta 90B submarines for $ 984 million, two of which had joined service whilst the third is nearing completion at the Karachi shipyard. The PN, which retired four of its French Hangor (Daphne)-class submarines last month, plans to acquire between three and five additional substitutes for delivery over the next decade. Germany’s HDW and Spain’s Navantia are believed to have been asked to submit proposals to the PN for the submarines, Jane’s reported. Meanwhile, the PN took delivery recently of eight second hand P-3C Orion maritime patrol (MRP) aircraft from the US Navy bringing to 10 its fleet of such assets. Initially, when the US announced the transfer of the surplus MRA to the PN, it indicated that the aircraft would be deployed to augment border security along the Afghan frontier where American forces have been fighting the Taliban since 9/11. But PN officials recently declared that the P-3C’s would, in addition to the Afghan border, also patrol the northern Arabian Sea to keep an eye on the Indian Navy’s activities and also the Persian Gulf region. Armament industry sources said the P-3C’s were provided free of cost under America’s foreign military sales programme but its manufacturer, Lockheed Martin is expected to subsequently upgrade its avionics suite to suit the PN’s operational requirements. The time frame and cost of this retrofit, however, is not known. Thats awesome!...I read that 4th submarine is being tried and tested in the french waters however its not confirmed.These submarines are crucial part of PN.They will come in handy when INS Viraat or their fuure AC-Carrier is a target. This post has been edited by y=--3cos(2x--5)+8: Apr 25 2006, 09:53 PM -------------------- ![]() |
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Apr 26 2006, 04:44 AM
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Pakistan Navy Coalition maritime security campaign
April 25 2006 at 5:14 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Iftikhar A. Khan MINA SULEMAN (Bahrain), April 24: Pakistan Navy on Monday assumed the command of the Coalition Maritime Security Campaign (CMSC) plan, becoming the first non-Nato country to lead such a coalition against terrorism. Commodore J.W. Ort of Netherlands handed over the command of Coalition Task Force-150 to Rear Admiral Shahid Iqbal at a ceremony held aboard a Royal Netherlands ship docked at the Mina Suleman port. Speaking on the occasion, Vice Naval Chief Vice Admiral Muhammad Haroon said Pakistan was committed to rooting out terrorism from the maritime domain in its area to ensure stability in the region. Pakistan, he pointed out, had contributed 12 ships for the duty. “We have also been contributing staff at Headquarters NAVCENT, sea riders and linguists to coalition ships to assist in easing out their problems of communications.” He said Pakistan had paid heavily for being a partner in the global war on terrorism. He said non-state actors posed threats of terrorism, arms smuggling, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and drug and human trafficking persisted. “We feel that fight against terrorism in any form is a noble act and we consider it our moral obligation to continue this war,” he stressed. Admiral Haroon observed that participation in CMSC had provided immense benefits to the Pakistan navy. “It has provided exposure to our men, has added to the professional acumen of our Navy and has enhanced the image of our country in international community,” he said. Commander US Naval Forces Central Command Vice Admiral Patrick M. Walsh said the international community shared the common goal against a global enemy — an enemy of peace, stability and prosperity. He praised the role Pakistan had played in the anti-terror war and said that professionalism and acumen of Pakistan Navy was critical to the maritime-counter terrorism operation. The outgoing commander of the CTF-150, Commodore J.W. Ort, said Pakistan would contribute a lot to the campaign with regional knowledge and a network of regional contacts. The new commander, Rear Admiral Iqbal said terrorism was a global phenomenon which had become an enormous challenge for the international community. He said the assumption of the command of the CTF-150 would provide an opportunity to Pakistan Navy to enhance its professional skills. The CTF-150 commander is responsible for conducting maritime security operations in an area that includes the Gulf of Oman, the Arabian Sea, the Red Sea and parts of the Indian Ocean. AFP adds: “In taking command of CTF-150, Pakistan is again showing its strong commitment to regional security,” US Ambassador to Pakistan Ryan Crocker said in a statement issued in Islamabad. F-Sola a jaa teyno akiyaan udeekdiyaan... I wonder how much more confirmation is needed on the F-16s that are coming.Everybody is sick of the wait.First USA congress approves it,jewish congres approves it,US-Pak officials confirm deal,lockheed martin begins making them new,Belgium is ready to give Pakistan the used ones, pakistani congress approves it and STILL there was a need for another meeting to confirm this deal...ugh! Jeeeezuz its just an aircraft, send it quick Uncle Sam... -------------------- ![]() |
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Apr 28 2006, 12:36 AM
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Hey do you get the feeling that PAF is not really excited about getting
F-16s anymore? I think that they're more interested in J-10s and JF-17s. ‘Scaled-down package of F-16s to be purchased’ http://www.dawn.com/2006/04/28/top9.htm This post has been edited by MJ2k4: Apr 28 2006, 12:38 AM -------------------- I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. .. no i wont.. |
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Apr 28 2006, 03:39 AM
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The link does not work for me.I would not say they are not excited but I would say they are more relaxed now.They might have scaled it down because we lack funds.The earthquake was one major blow.Its also possible that after chasing something for more than 20 years they are tired and looking to get something else.Already we are buying AWACS which is costly.
The J-10 are under consideration, infact the signal has been given to but them.Still there is a long way to go.As you already know JF-17 will arrive shortly.We are in good shape for the future.Yes overall the PAF is more interested in J-10 and JF-17 than the F-16.I am not sure IF the Chinese aircrafts are going to be as good as American...or at least we should have went for a European one...lets wait and see. -------------------- ![]() |
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Apr 28 2006, 12:02 PM
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The link does not work for me.I would not say they are not excited but I would say they are more relaxed now. here you go bro i copy and paste for you the above given link by MJ2K4. ‘Scaled-down package of F-16s to be purchased’ WASHINGTON, April 27: Pakistan has agreed to purchase a greatly scaled down package of American F-16 fighters after foregoing a larger purchase to finance relief efforts in last year’s earthquake, officials said on Thursday. Pakistani Foreign Secretary Riaz Khan and US Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said after a round of talks they had agreed to proceed with the sale but would not provide the number of aircraft. Mr Khan said it was “a much scaled-down request” from the package under consideration last year that reportedly included 25 new aircraft at around 25 million dollars apiece. “In view of the constraints that we have on resources, we have now a far less ambitious package which is a mix of some old, used aircraft and some new,” he told a joint news conference. Mr Burns said he reassured Khan “that we are committed to the sale of American F-16 aircraft to Pakistan and we intend to begin our consultations on this issue with Congress shortly.” Washington had blocked the sale of F-16s to Pakistan for 15 years to protest its nuclear weapons program, but gave the green light in March 2005 to reward the South Asian ally for its help in the war on terror. President Pervez Musharraf said in November he had to postpone the purchase to concentrate on helping victims of the devastating earthquake that killed more than 73,000 people the month before.—AFP This post has been edited by proud pakistani: Apr 29 2006, 12:44 AM -------------------- MAY AL-MIGHTY ALLAH BLESS US ALL
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Apr 28 2006, 10:50 PM
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I won't be supraised if PAF does'nt go for f-solas. J-10 seems equal/better then f-16s. It's chinese meaning we nevr have to worry about being sanctioned. They will be cheap, they are chinese so there is a chance that we might get TOT for it. Which is a good thing. It's also possibile that j-10 might have a ASEA radar. But iam not too sure about this.
While f-16 on the other hand is expensive, we are getting it from usa so they can sacntion us anytime(though PAF is/has made arrangements for spare parts). And f-16's are slowly getting obselate, espically the block we will be getting. Which is 50/52. But unless we get f-16 block 60 with ASEA radar, then it might make sense to go for them. The indians already have better things like SU-30MKI, which is way better then f-16block 50/52. So PAF is thinking twice about this plane. |
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Apr 29 2006, 05:54 AM
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Bro Awais you aready know to counter SU-30MKI Pakistan is buying J-10.These F-16 we are getting now will be used against Mig-29 of IAF.Soon-to-arrive JF-17 will counter Mig-21-27 plus the Jaguars.PAF looks in good shape for the future
Now we need a jet engine transport plane because baba C-130s are propeller lazy bums.But still they are reliable. -------------------- ![]() |
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Apr 30 2006, 06:09 PM
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http://www.dawn.com/2006/04/30/top2.htm
Hatf VI missile test-fired By Our Reporter RAWALPINDI, April 29: Pakistan on Saturday test-fired nuclear-capable, surface-to-surface ballistic missile Hatf VI (Shaheen II), an upgraded version of a missle system capable of hitting targets 2,000 kilometres away with high accuracy. A statement said the test was conducted to validate additional technical parameters beyond those that were verified in the last missile test in March 2005. It said that Hatf VI (Shaheen-II) was Pakistan’s longest-range ballistic missile system and its advanced version had a potential to achieve a range of 2,500 kilometres. The two-stage solid-fuelled missile was capable of carrying high-accuracy nuclear and conventional warheads, the statement said. The test was witnessed by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, who congratulated scientists, engineers and technical staff of Pakistan’s Strategic Organisations on achieving “another milestone on the road to success”. The prime minister said that Pakistan’s strategy of credible minimum deterrence was fully in place, adding that it guaranteed peace in the region. He said that the country’s defence needs would always remain a priority and the strategic programme, which enjoyed universal support within the country, would go from strength to strength. Referring to recent US-India civilian nuclear energy deal, the prime minister said the government was fully alive to developments in the region, adding that that Pakistan would never accept any discrimination. “We will continue to pursue vigorously our security and energy needs from all sources, including nuclear,” the prime minister said. -------------------- I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. .. no i wont.. |
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May 1 2006, 12:10 AM
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Indian Navy ready for joint exercises with Pak
The Indian Navy is ready to undertake joint exercises with its counterparts in Pakistan, as the two countries enjoy an "excellent" bilateral relationship, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Arun Prakash said in Udhagamandalam on Friday. "It is excellent and if we get a chance, we are ready to go ahead with joint exercises with the Pakistan Navy," he informed a news agency.. Asked about the several joint exercises of the Navy, he said the Indian Navy has such exercise programmes with USA, UK And Oman. "We did such an exercise with the French Navy in Goa and it was a rewarding experience," he said. On the modernisation of the Indian Navy, he said the Navy frequently inducts the latest technology. To a question on the formation of the Armed Forces Tribunal, Admiral Arun Prakash, said it is a good proposal. "It is under the government's scrutiny and will be implemented any time." Referring to the current tense situation in Sri Lanka, he said the Navy had been taking a number of steps to protect the maritime boundaries, like increased surveillance, with special attention towards the safety of fishermen. But despite pleas, fishermen do venture out to sea, he said. Earlier, Admiral Prakash took the salute from cadets at the parade grounds at Lawrence School, Lovedale. Addressing the students, he exhorted them to uphold the values learnt in school all through their lives. This would help them achieve success in their fields, he said. Source: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_16...00500020000.htm ------------------------- Joint-exercse with who?...the Indians? -------------------- ![]() |
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May 1 2006, 02:34 PM
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O i like the thread.. but come on discuss more, copy paste less.
I was reading this topic at wikipedia and according to that Pakistan is at #7 in the world in active armed forces... that was surprising as i thought the europenas would have more active. It would make sense cuz Pakistan has been neck to neck with India for so long and now the nw border needs troops but stil its surprising to see Pakistan right there on top. Roughly how close to accuracy is this? LINK -------------------- Even on the Day of Judgment when I am resurrected, the scars of your love will be manifest on my body and your picture clinging to my heart.
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May 3 2006, 04:47 PM
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Hey guys, you know i heard that Pakistan was in talks with turkey regarding AL-Khalids, well we all know that Sudia Arbia is soon going to aprove 150 AL-Khalids for 600 million USD, but what is going on with Turkey do they wish to buy the AL-Khalids or not ?! I think all Muslim countries should now turn towards Pakistan for Tanks as Pakistan is the only muslim country in the world who makes their own Tanks and one of the best tanks in the world !
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May 3 2006, 04:55 PM
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Hey guys what i was thinking is that as we have allready approved to buy J-10 and F-16 and JF-17 we all know we will get any way ! so do you think it will be a good idea to sell F-7 PG's to Bangladesh as thier Air Force still uses F-6 air carft and thoes which were sold to them by Pakistan i think. It will also improve the Blance in the region as Bangladesh will be able to defend it self better. and this is a old news but any way still posting it and what do you think will turkey buy AL-Khalids ?
"He described Al-Khalid and Al-Zarar as cheapest and fine fighting machines, which can be termed more battle-worthy than the western tank. 'I have talked to Turkish and Saudi leadership, as Al-Khalid mass production with a price tag of only $ 2 million, as compared to $ 7 million of any western tank, has started. The tank has already been inducted in the armoured corps.'"There is a tremendous potential in the country for indigenous defence production and manufacturing military hardware, said President General Pervez Musharraf on Friday (12 September). In a panel interview with The News-Jang here at the Army House, he referred to successful manufacturing of main battle Al-Khalid tank, which he described as "the best king of the battle in the world". He said it was produced with record time, as India produced failed Arjun and Vijanta tanks, which the Indian Army has refused to induct. "They spent two and a half decades on Vijanta and the project failed, and now the heavyweight Arjun is a failed machine." The president also hailed successful test of JF-17 Thunder aircraft, as India failed to produce Light Combat Aircraft even in 20 years. "The JF-17 is put on trial within 6 to 8 years, and the aircraft can compete with any other aircraft of modern times." He added: "God has been very kind that we are maintaining deterrence and we can produce major military equipment on our own, though China helped in JF-17 Thunder aircraft". http://www.why-war.com/news/2003/09/13/pakistan.html This post has been edited by AL-Khalid: May 3 2006, 04:58 PM |
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May 3 2006, 07:32 PM
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so do you think it will be a good idea to sell F-7 PG's to Bangladesh as thier Air Force still uses F-6 air carft and thoes which were sold to them by Pakistan i think. It will also improve the Blance in the region as Bangladesh will be able to defend it self better. and this is a old news but any way still posting it and what do you think will turkey buy AL-Khalids ? i think bengladeshis want bread first not weapons -------------------- |
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May 3 2006, 09:04 PM
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i think bengladeshis want bread first not weapons Naw, they got a lot of wheat... Wtheck does B.desh want planes... donate some submarines or boats or something.. the planes will end up in the water anywayz... lol -------------------- THIS FORUM IS DEAD. STAY ALIVE AND SURVIVE, JOIN DESI-LINK.COM
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May 4 2006, 04:37 AM
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^I'm actually surprised that we're not top 5 countries.
I'd believe it, ,considering the situation we're in these days. I mean look at the western border, we've afghani's training people for Jihad on Pakistan. On top of that we have Kashmir and Siachen confrontations. -------------------- I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. .. no i wont.. |
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May 4 2006, 10:29 AM
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Hey guys what i was thinking is that as we have allready approved to buy J-10 and F-16 and JF-17 we all know we will get any way ! so do you think it will be a good idea to sell F-7 PG's to Bangladesh as thier Air Force still uses F-6 air carft and thoes which were sold to them by Pakistan i think. It will also improve the Blance in the region as Bangladesh will be able to defend it self better. and this is a old news but any way still posting it and what do you think will turkey buy AL-Khalids ?
"He described Al-Khalid and Al-Zarar as cheapest and fine fighting machines, which can be termed more battle-worthy than the western tank. 'I have talked to Turkish and Saudi leadership, as Al-Khalid mass production with a price tag of only $ 2 million, as compared to $ 7 million of any western tank, has started. The tank has already been inducted in the armoured corps.'"There is a tremendous potential in the country for indigenous defence production and manufacturing military hardware, said President General Pervez Musharraf on Friday (12 September). In a panel interview with The News-Jang here at the Army House, he referred to successful manufacturing of main battle Al-Khalid tank, which he described as "the best king of the battle in the world". He said it was produced with record time, as India produced failed Arjun and Vijanta tanks, which the Indian Army has refused to induct. "They spent two and a half decades on Vijanta and the project failed, and now the heavyweight Arjun is a failed machine." The president also hailed successful test of JF-17 Thunder aircraft, as India failed to produce Light Combat Aircraft even in 20 years. "The JF-17 is put on trial within 6 to 8 years, and the aircraft can compete with any other aircraft of modern times." He added: "God has been very kind that we are maintaining deterrence and we can produce major military equipment on our own, though China helped in JF-17 Thunder aircraft". http://www.why-war.com/news/2003/09/13/pakistan.html |
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May 5 2006, 03:23 AM
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Those of you who did not know, Bangladesh has Mig-29 fighters.They are the Russian equilent to F-16.The Bengalis sure could buy our F-7 but the F-7s will become obsolele soon.They are better if they buy JF-17 which is affordable and capable.
Al-Khalid's potential buyers include KSA, Oman and Egypt.AK is a MBT made specifically for desert warefare.Thats the reaosn why the Saudis are trying and testing it. -------------------- ![]() |
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May 16 2006, 02:52 PM
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Those of you who want to see classical pictures of new JF-17 Prototype 04. Check this out.
http://www.pakistaniforces.com/gallery/sho...ery.php/cat/509 Cheers. -------------------- |
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May 28 2006, 12:02 AM
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How many of you remember this video ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERiCjsml0Ro It used to be my favorite! -------------------- I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize. .. no i wont.. |
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Jun 3 2006, 06:44 AM
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EU Plans To Sell Eurofighter (Typhoon) To Pakistan Through Turkey
Monday, May 29, 2006 Eurofighter proposes Turkey final assembly, weapons system integration, parts manufacturing and maintenance tasks for over 400 aircraft. The proposal matches rival JSF groupâ local work offer of over $4 billion Florence/Grosseto, Italy TDN Defense Desk The four-nation, European Eurofighter consortium that builds the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet has proposed a $5 billion industrial participation program to Turkey, a deal that will take effect if Ankara decides to become the group's fifth partner. Giovanni Bertolone, chief executive officer for Alenia Aeronautica, the Italian partners of the Eurofighter group that promotes the fighter in Turkey, said that the proposal involves the final assembly of the entire program beginning with the manufacture of aircraft for Turkey. An Alenia official said that the assembly work would involve about 100 aircraft for the Turkish Air Force plus over 300 aircraft the Eurofighter group hopes to sell to other buyers. The work will also involve the integration of weapons systems, production of parts including carbon fiber as well as maintenance and support for the fighter jets. This is a comprehensive proposal presently in the process of deep discussions (with the Turkish authorities), Bertolone told reporters in Florence. Our impression is that the SSM [Turkey's defense procurement office] are favorable to this industrial participation proposal. If it went ahead, Bertolone said, the proposal will allow the Turkish Air Force to gain operational independence -- the ability to autonomously maintain its fighter fleet. It is our opinion that Turkey's local industry is well-developed, and prepared for ambitious hi-tech tasks, Bertolone said. Turkey qualifies to emerge as the operational support center for the Typhoon. He said if Turkey became the group's fifth partner, it would be tasked with promoting the fighter in countries with which it has friendly relations, like Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates. The Eurofighter consortium believes that Turkey, with its advanced aviation industry, fulfils all the requirements to become a partner of the group, Bertolone said. Partnership in the group, he said, would mean having access to source codes and other critical technology. Asked if he agreed that Ankara would be discouraged from joining the European partnership if Turkey faced major problems in its accession talks with the European Union later this year, Bertolone said that although political unity was one of the essential ingredients of the idea to build a European fighter, politics should not mask the industrial, military and technological benefits of the program.Let's be optimistic, he said. Europe's history is full of examples that illustrate political unity went parallel to cooperation in aviation. Earlier this year, Turkey launched a competition for the procurement of 120 new generation fighters. Recently, Eurofighter's cross-Atlantic rival in the contest, the multinational Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) group led by Lockheed Martin -- the world's biggest defense firm -- that builds the F-35, proposed a package of over $4 billion for Turkey's defense industry. Turkey is a partner of the JSF group, and has invested $175 million for its development phase. Turkey's top procurement officials have repeatedly said that Turkey will either choose between the F-35 and the Typhoon, or go for a combination of both aircraft to meet its future fighter/strike requirements. For example, Murad Bayar, Turkey's chief procurement official, has said that by the end of 2006 Turkey will decide whether to go for the F-35 only, the Eurofighter only, or both. Defense analysts view the F-35 as a perfect striker, future aircraft designed for mainly air-to-ground missions, and the Typhoon as a solid fighter for mainly air-to-air missions. Ideally, a country should possess both aircraft if, of course, it has the means to afford them from both a procurement and a maintenance point of view, a Rome-based defense analyst said. I am not sure if Turkey's finances are strong enough to support this idea. Britain and Italy have decided to keep both aircraft in their fleet. Last December, the Typhoon became fully operational in the Italian Air Force and has so far gone through over 1,600 flying hours. The first Typhoon had arrived in Italy's Grosseto air base in April 2005. A demo flight at the Grosseto base showed that the Typhoon is up and running and defending Italian skies. The Typhoon fleet at Grosseto is ready to take to the air in 15 minutes around the clock. The aircraft are used for air defense, surveillance, training and reconnaissance and surveillance missions. The aircraft will soon be deployed for NATO-led missions in Afghanistan. The Eurofighter program's first tranche foresees the manufacturing of 142 aircraft for its four partners: Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain. Its second tranche will cover 236 aircraft for the partner nations plus 18 aircraft for Austria. Recently, the Eurofighter consortium penned a deal with Saudi Arabia for the sale of an unknown number of the Typhoon -- industry sources say the deal involves around 100 aircraft. Source: http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/...p?enewsid=44656 This post has been edited by y=--3cos(2x--5)+8: Jun 3 2006, 06:46 AM -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 14 2006, 03:42 AM
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Harpoon block II missiles for Pakistan
Calling Pakistan a "key ally" in the 'war on terror' and a "friendly nation" to the US, the Bush administration has notified Congress that it is planning to sell Harpoon Block II anti-ship missiles and related equipment and services for a total value of $370 million to the south Asian nation. Notifying Congress of the impending sale, the Defence Security Cooperative Agency said Pakistan has requested for a possible sale of 50 UGM-84L (submarine-launched), 50RGM-84L (surface-launched), and 30 AGM-84L (air-launched) Block II HARPOON missiles along with five encapsulated HARPOON Command Launch Systems. The Agency said that 115 containers; missile modifications; training devices; spare and repair parts; technical support; support equipment; personnel training and training equipment; technical data and publications; US Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services were also requested by Pakistan. "This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that continues to be a key ally in the global war on terrorism," the agency said. -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 23 2006, 06:23 AM
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Usa, France And Pakistan Participate In Anatolian Eagle Exercise
KONYA - The United States, France, Pakistan and NATO AWACS are participating in the Anatolian Eagle-2006/2 Exercise which began in central city of Konya on June 12th. Releasing a statement on Monday, Turkish Air Forces Command said that the exercise continuing at the Third Main Jet Base Command in Konya would end on June 23rd. It noted that aircraft would perform training flights during the Anatolian Eagle-2006/2 Exercise which aimed to develop cooperation and mutual exchange of views among participant countries. Anatolian Eagle is one of the largest and most complex joint air force exercises in the world. http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp -------------------- ![]() |
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Jun 23 2006, 12:03 PM
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![]() Posting Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 2-July 05 |
Yaar, How many air bases does PAF, and how many of them are operantial 24/7? And how many al-khailds are did pak army odered?
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Jun 24 2006, 05:04 PM
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'jUsT nOt mE' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,036 Joined: 9-August 02 |
I got a question... Whats up with Pakistan giving so much attention to its navy?
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Jun 24 2006, 10:51 PM
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I got a question... Whats up with Pakistan giving so much attention to its navy? Pakistan wants a blue water navy. And learning for other countries/ empires mistakes, one has learned to make a strong navy. And oh yea, we're just gettig new stuff so we can replace the old stuff with it. |
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Jun 25 2006, 12:50 AM
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Yaar, How many air bases does PAF, and how many of them are operantial 24/7? And how many al-khailds are did pak army odered? Exact number and location is kept a secret by any nation.It is a planned strategy, therefore I am unable to tell you the number of airbases cuz I dont know myself.About the 24/5 operation I would say the ones along the border are on constant alert.These can be sargodha, lahore, mianwali, karachi and pasroor I got a question... Whats up with Pakistan giving so much attention to its navy? Wow you noticed that too...I know eh?The navy was vastly ignored in 90s because of economic and defence embargoes and tight financial situation.After 2002 it has been updated with induction of new equipment like P3-C orion.It makes sense to pay attention to a small navy like Pakistan because when you have a small navy you gotta provide it the best or better equipment. This post has been edited by y=--3cos(2x--5)+8: Jun 25 2006, 04:52 AM -------------------- ![]() |
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Jul 20 2006, 07:14 AM
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[b]Defence deal with UAE being agreed today[/b]
ISLAMABAD: The federal cabinet is expected to approve today the revision of a 14-year-old military pact with the United Arab Emirates that allows Pakistani soldiers to be sent to serve in the UAE army as and when required by the host country. The treaty was signed when Nawaz Sharif was prime minister on May 25, 1992. It is now being revised and has been made part of a new defence cooperation agreement being inked between the two countries. Defence Secretary Lt General ® Tariq Waseem Gazi has sent a summary to the cabinet, which meets today, seeking approval for ratification of the agreement. After cabinet approval, the Foreign Office will submit an instrument of ratification of the agreement for the signature of President General Pervez Musharraf. According to article 3 of the agreement, Pakistan and the UAE will cooperate in security and defence policy, arms import and export, military training and exercises, scientific research, military medical services, humanitarian and peacekeeping operations, environmental issues caused by military activities, and exchange of intelligence. staff report. Congressional hearing on F-16 deal delayed By Our Correspondent WASHINGTON, July 13 A key congressional panel on Thursday postponed a hearing to review the $5.1 billion US arms package offered to Pakistan. The 50-member house committee on international relations was due to hear John Hillen, the State Department’s Assistant Secretary for Political-Military Affairs, on Thursday on the deal, which includes new and old F-16 jets and their weapon systems. The Congress has 30 days to act on the deal which was notified by Pentagon on June 28. If the lawmakers do not raise objections within the stipulated period, the deal will be considered endorsed. The office of the chairman of the committee, Republican Congressman Henry Hyde, announced that the hearing had been postponed ‘until further notice’ but gave no reason for the delay. The 18-member Senate foreign relations committee has not yet announced a hearing date. Unless stopped by Congress by July 28, Pakistan will get 36 new F-16C/D fighter aircraft, 200 sidewinder missiles, 200 air-to-air missiles, 500 kits for ground-attack satellite-guided bombs and 36 advanced pilot helmets. -------------------- ![]() |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:07 AM
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What the heck, the F-16,s we are geting now from american,s don,t have nuke warhead delivery system in it and some other things are missing too.
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