Which Zakir?, Talib Johari, Kalbe Sadiq, etc... Options

[Prince Ali]

I heard two majalis of Talib Johari. They were all right. At least he did not repeat his old points.

How about you guys? Who are you listening to? And what do you think about him?

[optimistic]

irfan haider abidi(late) was the best in my opinion
jan ali kazmi'z are good aswell

[Morg]

wht is majalis?? is there kinda naats? or speeches?

in so case, listen to Muhammad tahir ul qadris. good man
and Tahir allahuddin qadris too, he were direct descend of ghaus e azam

[Prince Ali]

Yes. It is sort of a speach. I have not heard Tahirul Qadri. I surely will. Do you know any website where I can hear him?

Talib Johari's third majlis was a good one. But he was kind of bitter on Daily Jang for some reason in the third one. I don't know why.

[optimistic]

tahirul qadri
Ali bhai dont even go near that person he is the biggest enemy of shias in pakistan at present
azam tariq is gone he could be the next one you never know

[optimistic]

[Morg]

WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT OPTIMISTIC
ashamed on u and ur tohught

tahir ul qadri is the closest ally u ever comes to when it is the matte rof shia sunni unity.

HE IS THE ONE ACCEPTING THEM AS FELLOW BROTHERS, HE IS THE ONE MEETING THEM, AND PROMISED THEM TO REPRESENT THEYR CAUSE IN MAJLIS. he is the one to ever talk to them, if u compare him to the other ektremists im afraid u didnt got the real tohught of him

optimistic u got to search before u ever hear a statement like this

princ eali , brother i am a follower of tahir ul qadri, AND AS U C I REGARD U AS MA JAAFRI BROTHERS. that is the teachdome of tahir ul qadir. if his idelogi hadnt passed ma brain i would be hating u guys. .

goto www.minhaj.com/org/no and read or listen to his speeches. there is no harm in listening. and if u feel like oh brainwashing then i tell u..
i myself listen to all, from jaafris, wahabis qadianis...couse i know what path is mine, and am sure to follow it....but i want knowledge...
speeches of tahir ul Qadri is full of love and unity....he talks about ibadaat and duas...nothing with anti shia things. shame on u optimistic...how can u say sometihng u dont know..

[Morg]

and one more thing i asked my fathe rabout it...

qadri is the man, who visited baghdad for education from Tahir alauddin qadri...the one who is direct descent of Ghuas e azam, AND TAHIR UL QADRI is the one who read KHOMEINI and got his ideologi, his sources to his knowlege.

TAHIR ul qadri is man of love, and i cannot belive u said that

[Prince Ali]

Yes optimistic, Morg is right. Although I have never heard Professor Tahir's speeches, but I know he is not a bad guy.
I will definitely hear him, Insha Allah.

[Morg]

hhehe..finally a shia in my grash...oooh im evil....

good prince ali, he is a shia friendly man, and doent talk about sects and all that
he talks about ur inner self and dhikr


beside
Tahir Alahuddin Qadri he from baghdad, is the one who had bait from almost all the muslim leaders. in pakistan bhutto zia nawaaz perwez and other famous people gave bait to him...but hes dead, and have his tomb in model town lahore..

tahir ul qadri is his mureed.

[DiarY]

Talib Johari's majlis-e- shaam-e-ghareeban was really gud
jaan ali kazmi is really good
and you can download/ listen to his latest majalis on http://www.hussainiyat.com

Naseem abbas's were also good

[optimistic]

[Samira Saeed]

What had to be said about Islam, has been said by the MAN who brought islam. There is no word gr8ter than his. All these Mola's combined cannot compete by the shear achievement of the man himself... Ladies and Gentlemen.. I present to you...
The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)! Dare to Compare or beat that mans achievement or are you just going to settle for Second place? Because incase u didnt know.. there are NO points for 2nd place.

[Morg]

good point sammy.


and u optimistic...u will stay jahil
IS THAT THE STRATEGY? FIRST TO MAKE LOVE TO SHIA, THEN HATE EM?
have u ever used ur brain?

[DiarY]

morg what do you mean by "make love to shia and then hate em?"
i did not get it
care to explain?

[Morg]

read what optimistic said

tahir ul qadri is a friend of the shias...optimistic means its tahirs strategy, first to love em then to hate em.. use some common sence man

[optimistic]

oh so do u know him in person eh
u will find out sooner or later who he really is
n get urself clear first he has never loved shiaz he has always hated em ok
Molana Irfan Haider Abidi(late) did not die in an accident he was murdered and the suspeced man was him yours "Tahir-ul-qadri"

[Morg]

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA u make me laught

I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HIM
my dad worked in the idara minhaj ul quran in norway, and had contact with that guy, if u want to tell me, WHO KNOW HIM BEST, then its me....i have joined his meeting as well. and second thing....to make fsadaat blame anyone....and its full scale war...

ok i say my shia brothers are muslim.....hehe just to call em kaffir later...hehe that my secret plan........dont want to use energy on u...u wont understand either....the big terrorists are blowing u guys apart. and the man u blame is the peacelover. .. . .. may allah give u hidayat

[optimistic]

^^^^^^ PEACE LOVER
u make me laugh man
tahir-ul-qadri and peace are two separate things my dear:)

[Morg]

u are really innoying

goto this site

Webpage

U WILL FIND ONLY DUAS AND POLITICAL MESSAGES.

secondly
we dont have a army consiting of suiside bombers, and neither do we interept in others fights.
WHY ARE TRYING TO LIE ABOUT SOMETHING U DONT KNOW

no wonder wars are created. when someone wants to live peacefully, he/she is dragged to the battlefield. optimistic. u really need to use others brain too, rather than that hole u got up in there

[optimistic]

[Morg]

i aint accusing u for beeing terrorist
AND NOW U FEEL LIKE I AM MAKING WILD GUESSES. ha?
thats wha tit feels to me to, when u speak that **** about tahir ul qadri
he wasnt behind the quetta attacks
some ekstremists dont like the hazara shias there. thats the problem. TAHIR UL QADRI HASNT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT


and by the way
if u cant accept lies from my mouth, then dont lie u too

[optimistic]

ok i believe u that he wasnt behind those attacks
but why dont u believe this reality that he is the biggest enemy of shia muslims

[Morg]

bcouse if he were. then i would be hating u guys too. but i dont, thanx to his education understand it

[optimistic]

the point is that i dont hate sunni people coz more than half of my friends are sunnis
secondly according to quran we are all one ( milat-e-ibrahimi) hazrat-e-ibraheem ke deen ko follow karte hain sab.

u have got to realise that these fake religious ppl are behind all these fightings that is going on b/w us

[Samira Saeed]

Also.. the people who believe that Ali's kin should be Caliphs... they are also responsible for splits.. also thoughs who dont really give importance to Ali's family or prophets family. Hahah a split thats UNSOLVABLE.. what a predicament! Till Qayamat people will just play the guesswork or kill each other, whichever one finds the other a MORE pleasurable pastime. Aint Life and Islam wonderful?

[Morg]

optimistic i think u missed whole of the point

mullahs like tahir ul qadri speaks unity, and u tell me hes splitting us..WHT IS UR REALLY MEANING WITH ALL THOSE POSTS

[ydakh]

Morg u r right! I am not a beliver of Tahir-ul-Qadri...but I have two cassetes of this mulana..some people have reservation him becoz of involving in politics,but he is also good in politics in my view.My brother is great lover..wow....Allah has given a great mind..and
remember people Sufi people r most peaceful comunity on the earth..I can say proudly...Qadria,Rizwia,Ghosia,Chishtia..and many more Salasal never be fight each other..they respect each other and live always peace...
that's why Mojority of people of pakistan are sufi lover.
All know these who is involve in sect fighting..who has taught hate about shia.

This post has been edited by ydakh: Mar 9 2004, 12:19 PM

[Morg]

islam and politics is one
if a mullah or religious leader comes in politics, there is nothing wrong. rather it is good. why does people look at it as wrong.

tahir ul qadri

leader of IDARA MINHAJ UL QURAN

and leader of PAKISTAN AWAMI TEHREEK

no terrorist militia. no violence

-education schools, all from grass to top level
-programmes for future, help the needy. (seen programme on Prime TV?)
-unity programmes
-help all remote areas.

visit
WWW.MINHAJ.ORG

pluss, qadri won a seat in parliament. where he has ONE seat. he deserved more, but it all were planned, havent u seen, every party got atleast one seat?. thats a try from musshy man to make em all happy.
but the revolution will come, INQALAAB INQALAAB, MUSTAFWI INQALAB

[optimistic]

at the end of day he is MULLAH not MOLANA and u know what a mullah is let me tell u
Mullah ki hamesha do nishanian hoti han
1- woh hamesha jaldi mai rehta hay
2- baray bhai ki shirt or chotay bhai ki shalwar pehnay huye hota hay
that's why u see those ppl wearing long shirts and short shalwars with there beards dyed in mehndi and green whatever u call them on their heads which makes them look like parrots
Prince Ali Qalb-e-Sadiq told that LOL

This post has been edited by optimistic: Mar 10 2004, 05:35 AM