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post Sep 9 2002, 07:45 AM
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Islaam, Christianity, and Judaism all believe in the coming of the leader of the great and final battle whom they all call the Messiah.

The Jews are looking forward to his coming because they claim he will bring about God's kingdom on Earth, after the establishment of a Jewish nation in Palestine. They await a leader from among the children of Prophet Dawud, alayhes salam. According to Imaam Ibnul Qayyim, when this leader "moves his lips in prayers all the nations will die." They claim that he is the promised Messiah, and call him the 'Prince of Peace'. Believing that he will make all mankind subservient to the state of Israel, they are preparing for his arrival by gathering in Palestine. According to their beliefs, he will come to rule the Earth and reside in Jerusalem, which he will take as his capital. The person they are waiting for is the Dajjal, whom the Christians call the Antichrist. This is why the majority of the Dajjal's followers will be from the Jews.

The Christians and the Muslims agree that this promised Messiah leader is Eesa who will descend from heaven and return to Earth to lead the great battle. This battle will be led by Eesa against the Dajjal and his followers.

The Christians believe that before the second coming of Eesa, those who believe in Eesa as the son of God will experience 'the rapture' when they will be raised up into the heavens to meet their Lord, and thereby will be saved from the Antichrist. They base their belief on the corrupted text of the Bible: "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ [i.e., the dead Christians] will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17). The rest of the people will be left to perish with the king of darkness, son of Satan.

"Then the king [Dajjal] shall do according to his own will: He shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done" (Daniel 11:36).

The Christians believe that the Armageddon will take place in a small valley called Meggido in Palestine. They claim that the battle which will be led by Eesa against the Dajjal and his followers, will be crowned by victory for the Christians and the complete destruction of the non-Christians who will all drown in a lake of fire burning with brimstone. This is based on the corrupted text of the Bible: "Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, 'Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses, and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all people both free and slave, both small and great.' And I saw the beast, the kings of the Earth, and their armies gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse against his army. Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast, and those who worshipped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh." (Revelation 19:17-21)

Why the Judeo-Christian Alliance in Palestine?
Allaah the Exalted said: "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are but friends of one another" [5:51]. Although they differ in their theories of the outcome of al-Malhamah, the Jews and Christians have become allied against the Muslims in Palestine. Al-Aqsa Masjid is located in Jerusalem and is the third holiest site for Muslims.

According to the corrupted text of the Old Testament, all of the Jews must return to Palestine and establish a Temple in the exact location of al-Aqsa before the Messiah will come. It is from this perspective that both the Jews and the Christians agree on the establishment of the state of Israel, and the immigration of all the Jews to Palestine. The Christians believe that the Messiah will come at the end of the Gregorian millennium, and rule on Earth for one thousand years. Allaah says: "Each [one of us, for the outcome of this] is waiting, so wait, and assuredly you shall know who are the travelers on the even path, and who is guided." [20:135].

Al-Aqsa Masjid is in Danger
The Christians, specially the evangelicals, believe that Eesa will kill the Dajjal who would be a Jew as well as his followers. But they believe that all of the Jews will convert to Christianity after the defeat of the Dajjal. Therefore the Christians do not object to the gathering of the Jews in Jerusalem. The Jews, however, believe that their victory and the re-establishment of their state will not take place until the 'Temple' has been rebuilt. This temple will have to be built in the same spot on which al-Aqsa exists today. They are waiting for signs that cause this to happen but because they believe that they can (and should) hasten their occurrence, they would like very much see al-Aqsa Masjid be destroyed sooner than later. They are, however, ready to rebuild the temple anytime now because they have taken all the necessary steps to prepare for that. Some are mentioned in the following:

PREMEDITATED AGGRESSION
'The temple' is an ancient name for the chosen place of worship before Islaam. The temple that existed two millenniums ago in Jerusalem represented the steps of Al-Aqsa mosque before Islaam. The Prophet, sallallahu alayhe wa sallam, was asked about the first Masjid ever built. He said: "Al-Masjid al-Haram (in Makkah)," and when asked about the second Masjid, he said: "Al-Masjid al-Aqsa," then he added that between the two were forty years (Bukhari). Both were built by prophet Ibrahim, alayhes salaam. The first temple that was built was destroyed around 587 BC at the hands of the king of Babylon, and the second temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE and was not rebuilt since.

At the advent of Islaam the great event of al-Israa (The night journey of the Prophet from Makkah to Jerusalem) was an indication that the area has become the heritage of the Muslims, and that such a sacred place should not stay at the hands of disbelievers. Therefore freeing the land from them was the Muslims' immediate goal after uniting the Arabian Peninsula (hence the battle of Tabuk). Now after two thousand years of the destruction of the temple and 1344 years of the building of al-Aqsa mosque the Jews want to destroy the mosque and rebuild a third temple at its place. Unfortunately they have made great steps toward this goal:

Occupation of al-Quds by the Jews:
Al-Quds (Jerusalem), the town where al-Aqsa Masjid was built, has been half eaten by the Jews when they annexed its Western part after the 1948 war. Now they have a plan (called Jerusalem 2000) to swallow the Eastern part, where Muslims are. First, Jewish settlers invaded the area which was 100% inhabited by Palestinians, to the point that the town became 'a stronghold of the radical Jews' (Newsweek 9/5/96). Their goal is to assure a strong Jewish majority in the Eastern town. Second, urban sprawl is allowed for the Jewish settlers all around the town to isolate it from the rest of the Palestinian land and hence its annexation would become easier.

Collecting holy stones to build the temple:
On 1989 the Jews claimed that they found a 'holy' stone weighing more than five tons which they put as the foundation stone for the third temple near al-Aqsa Masjid. Since then, they went on a frenzy looking for holy stones everywhere, even uprooting the city's pavements to look for them. The radical Jews prepared everything according to their rituals to build the temple. They brought stones from the Neguev desert to be cut and polished in Jerusalem. They will need six million stones. 'It is no more a secret that the temple has been designed in the USA by American Jewish architects. The blueprints are at the disposition of the Israeli government.' (France Agence Press, August 1997).

Other preparations are underway to revive the rituals that were practiced in the temple. The altar is now ready. Rabbis are preparing whole generations to attend to the execution of the rituals. All utensils, such as recipients and even prayer rugs that would be needed once the temple is built are now ready.

The menorah, the tabut, and the sacred cow:
For the Jews, the sacredness of the temple is not complete without the menorah, their religious symbol. The Jews believe that the menorah which was in the first temple still exists, and was saved from fire when this later was burned down, but it has been missed since then. They are incessantly looking for it. Meanwhile, a huge menorah costing three million dollars was made of gold to be put in the temple.

The Jews are also looking for the tabut (the Ark of the Covenant) a wooden box containing a remnant of what Musa and Harun left behind (Muslims believe that this tabut was given to the people of Israel as a sign of the kingship of Saul as stated in the Qur'an 2:248). They believe that exists buried under the rubbles of the first temple. To search for it, they are undertaking extensive excavations under al-Aqsa Masjid!

In summary, the Jews have got everything ready before even the temple is built. But they cannot start building until they get a sign from God as they believe. This sign is a red cow that should fulfill the description mentioned in their book. This cow would be slaughtered and burned and its ashes would be used to 'purify' the people of Israel, for you see none can enter the temple without being purified, and the Jews believe that they all are impure now until they are cleaned by the cow's remains! Well this cow they claim was born in 1997. "The ritual slaughter of the red cow will take place three years after its birth; the count down to the great return of the Jews to their original place of worship, and the glad tidings of he coming of the savior, the Messiah. The attempt to accomplish this return will lead to an unforgettable beginning of the third millennium." (The Observer, 9/7/97) Excavations under the Masjid

This perhaps is the most dangerous and most malicious plot to destroy the mosque. These excavations have been going on for decades and are still underway. The goal is: to empty the ground under the two mosques, al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock, leaving them standing on hollow foundations so that they are vulnerable to collapse at the slightest natural or man-made tremor. Of course the Israeli government does not reveal this goal, but claims that the only purpose of the excavations is archeological; to find the remains of the second temple and other artifacts.

Digging tunnels under al-Aqsa:
These operations not only contribute to threatening the foundations of the mosque but also will facilitate and complement the project of the temple in future phases. In September 1996 a tunnel has been officially inaugurated, an indication that the steps to turn the mosque into a Jewish temple has officially started. Other tunnels are being dug under the Masjid, which means that now the Jews share the area with the Muslims. These tunnels can be used temporarily for worship, while the Israeli government has put electronic screens inside them showing al-Quds (Jerusalem), and at the place of al-Aqsa Masjid and the Dome of the Rock, the Jewish temple is shown surrounded by new buildings of Jewish architecture.

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Alia Amer
AlJumuah Vol 11 Issue 9 [Excerpted] © al-Muntada al-Islami

Next will be in detail the DAJJAL/ANTICHRIST
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post Sep 9 2002, 08:02 AM
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DAJJAL-THE ANTI CHRIST

I would like to inform you all of some information I have come across and feel that I must share it with all and hope and pray that we all learn a lesson from this. INSHAALLAH.

You will have heard much about DAJJAL - THE ANTI-CHRIST the Anti-Christ from the Christian and Jewish authorities. But what did The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) say about DAJJAL (The greatest Fitnah (Evil, test)) that will ever befall mankind.

When shall DAJJAL appear? Most of the signs prevalent before the coming of DAJJAL can now be observed. One thing though is for certain, if you are fortunate enough not to witness the Anti-Christ, then your children certainly shall. Before the Anti-Christ shall appear we have been told there shall be a SYSTEM, a DAJJAL- system, that is up and running, that shall await his arrival. This DAJJAL-system, will be the most evil and most corrupt satanic, kaafir force in history.

This system shall promote mass immorality (Homosexuality, Adultery, Fornication), Atheism, Devil-worship, use of USURY, Intoxication, (Alcohol & Drug abuse), Crime, Injustice, Oppression, Fitnah of the Pen (Pornography magazines etc.), cause wars, Famine, Massacres, Rape and suffering on an immeasurable scale.

The DAJJAL-system is of course as we know is FREEMASONRY Every single position in the United Nations, The EEC and every position in the British Parliament is held by people who are Freemasons. Freemasonry has something in the region of 700,000 members in England and Wales, yet the British public hardly know anything about them. Freemasons secretly worship a Devil-God, known as JAHBULON, If you do not believe me (see pages 230-240 of the International best selling book on Freemasonry The Brotherhood, by Stephen Knight & Satanic Voices, by David M Pidcock).

The Jews, the Christians, the Atheists and Secularist, the Munafiqeen, the whole of Kuffaar shall fall under the banner of the Anti-Christ, against Islam. It may also surprise you to know that all Christian Organizations are Masonic Institutions. About 60% of the Archbishops are Freemasons and secretly practice Devil-worship (see above mentioned books). If you want to know if a church is being used as a Masonic-Temple, then look on the stained glass windows for a Masonic symbol such as a snake and a dagger, or a star of David . If the church is in the shape of a Greek Temple, then it is definitely used for Masonic purposes. In Liverpool, the Roman Catholic cathedral has many Pyramids, Masonic symbols. There may be much fear about DAJJAL, but the final victory has been promised to the Muslims. Whereby every single Jew/Freemason shall be put to death. The whole Earth shall be cleansed of Kuffaar once and for all.

Imraan Bin Hussain (RA) relates that I heard Prophet (SAWS) saying : That since the birth of Adam (AS) till the advent of Qiyamah (Judgement day), there is no Fitnah (Evil, test) much greater than that of DAJJAL (MUSLIM).

DAJJAL will emerge from a place between Syria and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Judea (Yahudea). He will be of Jewish origin. He will have caused his Jewish parents much distress and pain. The Jews will accept him as  The Messiah and become his main followers. He will also have a great number of women followers as well. The entire secular world (Jews/Freemasons, Atheist, Christians, Hindus Etc.) shall unite under the banner of the Anti-Christ against Islam. Islam will be the only force standing between him and the total world domination.

Huzaifah (RA) says, Dajjal will be blind in one eye. This blind eye will be swollen like a grape : There will be a thick finger-like object in his eye. The letters KAF, FE, RE will be written on his forehead (meaning - Unbeliever). Every Muslim will be able to read these letters whether he is literate or illiterate. He will travel at great speeds by means of a gigantic animal-like a mule.....(MUSLIM & AHMAD).

Note: On the US one Dollar, There is
a Masonic sign implicating DAJJAL, a pyramid with one eye - check it out, if you dont believe me !! Underneath it which is written  Novus Ordo Seclorum -- Translated as:
NEW SECRET ORDER.
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http://www.allaahuakbar.net/image/dajjal.jpg


Ubaidah Bin Saamit (RA) says, Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) said  I have explained DAJJAL to you, but I fear that you might not have understood. DAJJAL will be short, and his legs will be crooked. The hair on his head will be extremely twisted...... If you have any doubt regarding DAJJAL, remember that your Sustainer (ALLAH), is not one eyed. (Because DAJJAL will eventually claim to be God himself. His followers shall accept him as such). He will be able to split a person into two and then bring him back life again....(AHMAD).

Narrated Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman: "Subay' ibn Khalid said: I came to Kufah at the time when Tustar was conquered. I took some mules from it. When I entered the mosque (of Kufah), I found there some people of moderate stature, and among them was a man whom you could recognize when you saw him that he was from the people of Hijaz. I asked: Who is he? The people frowned at me and said: Do you not recognize him? This is Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman, the companion of the Apostle of Allaah (peace_be_upon_him). Then Hudhayfah said: People used to ask the Apostle of Allaah (peace_be_upon_him) about good, and I used to ask him about evil. Then the people stared hard at him. He said: I know the reason why you dislike it. I then asked: Apostle of Allaah, will there be evil as there was before, after this good which Allaah has bestowed on us? He replied: Yes. I asked: Wherein does the protection from it lie? He replied: In the sword. I asked: Apostle of Allaah, what will then happen? He replied: If Allaah has on Earth a caliph who flays your back and takes your property, obey him, otherwise die holding onto the stump of a tree. I asked: What will come next? He replied: Then the Antichrist (Dajjal) will come forth accompanied by a river and fire. He who falls into his fire will certainly receive his reward, and have his load taken off him, but he who falls into his river will have his load retained and his reward taken off him. I then asked: What will come next? He said: The Last Hour will come. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 35, Trials and Fierce Battles (Kitab Al-Fitan Wa Al-Malahim), Number 4232)"

Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The greatest war, the conquest of Constantinople and the coming forth of the Dajjal (Antichrist) will take place within a period of seven months. (Translation of Sunan Abu- Dawud, Book 37, Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim), Number 4282)"

Narrated Abu Hurayrah: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islaam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allaah will perish all religions except Islaam. He will destroy the Antichrist (Dajjal) and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 37, Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim), Number 4310)"

Huzaifah (RA) also says, He will have with him WATER (Heaven) and FIRE (HELL). In reality his hell shall be heaven and his heaven shall be hell......(MUSLIM). In another Ahaadeeth of Our Prophet (SAWS) has said, that DAJJAL shall not know himself the difference between the two. If you are forced to choose between the two, then choose his fire (Hell), for in reality, it will be cool water, and his water (Heaven), shall be Hell.

Imraan Bin Hussain (RA) says the Prophet (SAWS) said ; Those who hear about DAJJAL should stay far from him. By Allah! A person will approach him thinking him to be a believer, but on seeing his amazing feats, will become his follower. (ABU DAWOOD).

Note : DAJJAL will have the power to cause Famine, Earth quakes and destruction on a mass scale. Many Muslims will join the ranks of DAJJAL on being afraid of his power. Only those with very strong faith will be able to resist. Remember that once you have joined the Anti-Christ, your soul will be doomed forever in the fire of hell. O Brothers / Sisters please come to the religion of Islam and prepare yourself for the big day. I hope this is of use to you and may Allah guide and protect us, so that we my spread the word of Allah in abundance. Ameen

Now dear readers....i hope this has cleared some basic points to you. here are some links as well to audio lectures and more details about Dajjal.

http://www.dubaibuzz.com
http://www.islaam.com/audio/lectures/iman/
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/free-masons/index.htm

May Allah bless you all.
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post Sep 11 2002, 10:17 AM
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"Before the Anti-Christ shall appear we have been told there shall be a SYSTEM, a DAJJAL- system, that is up and running, that shall await his arrival."

You told you that there will be a Dajjal System? Certainly it was not the Prophet.
ALL the hadiths that you have quoted talk about a man, not about a system. So did you come to believe about a Dajjal System?
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post Sep 11 2002, 10:22 AM
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"The DAJJAL-system is of course as we know is FREEMASONRY "

You have again reached a conclusion without proper arguments.

Satanic systems have always been present in the world. They are not new today.

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post Sep 11 2002, 10:24 AM
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"DAJJAL will have the power to cause Famine, Earth quakes and destruction on a mass scale."

What does this mean? By referring to Dajjal here, do you mean Dajjal the Man, or Dajjal the System?
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post Sep 11 2002, 10:30 AM
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In last postings, I said:

"You told you that there will be a Dajjal System? Certainly it was not the Prophet."

I typed 'You' instead of 'Who'. The correct sentence is:

"Who told you that there will be a Dajjal System? Certainly it was not the Prophet."
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What do want to achieve by posting hadithes about Dajjal?

If Dajjal is Freemasonry, then what can we do? Freemasonry is not practiced in Muslim world. It is only present in the West, as you say. So why don't you inform them about Dajjal being Freemasonry?

Or do you want Muslims to stand up against followers of Freemasonry and kill them?

I don't get what you want by writing about Dajjal.
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post Sep 11 2002, 10:32 AM
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You have talked about the Dajjal System. I think you would say the Prophet told about that System.

Could you please give that specific hadith regarding the Dajjal System.

Please note that I did not say 'hadith about Dajjal', rather I would like to see 'hadith about Dajjal System', as was concluded by you."
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post Sep 11 2002, 02:03 PM
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Dear Brother ali...

This is not whole complete peice of information.
There are manythings u misunderstood. Please
wait for my response. I am seriously bz in some
matters.

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:angry son.. u have misinterpreted wrongly, its because of ppl like who misled muslims with the wrong verses from thebible and quran that they resort to wron doings!! the bible was far before quran and if muslims believ in abraham who was in the old testament y say its a corrupt text, u have sin as a muslim by callin god's words corrupt, we all know muslims, christians anad jews share the same GOD, mayb not prophets or in christ, diversion is made by man himself, wat we belive we practise but obviously GOD has given us a powerful thingcall BRAINS and we have to user them to differenciate wats wrong and gd, even animals know what's love and care, r we dat stupid to kill ppl and rejoice in it? no doubt, muslims have suffered too, they r NOT the only ones.. y this hatred? this wasnt a in born thing, dun u think its just a wrong msg spread across by fanatics who just wan to achieve their own deeds, at the end of the day wat do we muslims get the name that we are evil? we know the religion is never the sort but the ppl who resort to evil in the name of religion!! The quran never said the jews and christians are evil or diffrent from ISlam, how can GOD the most loving and forgiving one comdem another of his creation? by taking revenge on US wat we get is bad economic!! alot of ppl jobless, dead sometimes we just have to admit and agreed they are powerful , its their time but for how long rite? middle east is also rich and powerful.. we cn always be better than them if we had resort to a more professional way...
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What does any of this have to do with world affairs.. I'm moving this thread to General.


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post Sep 12 2002, 10:55 AM
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first of all..

i havent missprinted.
second.... the text of the bible today is not same as it was before. Why did u percepted tht i am misleding..may be you have not enough knowledge that bible is not in its real condition...and thts why ALlah has said that the Holy Book Quraan will be protected by Him. What do you say now ?
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http://santanu.virtualave.net/islamicprophecy.htm


visit for more info.
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----"Before the Anti-Christ shall appear we have been told there shall be a SYSTEM, a DAJJAL- system, that is up and running, that shall await his arrival."

----"You told you that there will be a Dajjal System? Certainly it was not the Prophet. ALL the hadiths that you have quoted talk about a man, not about a system. So did you come to believe about a Dajjal System?"

My Answer :-

- There is no Hadith about Dajjal System. But Muslims scholars have found this system. They hava closely observed and analyzed the system. This system we found is Freemasonry.
Now...we are not bunch of fools here to predict and percept things. Christians have also observed this and they too call Freemasonry Antichrist and Satanic System.
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:23 PM
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Your Question
--"The DAJJAL-system is of course as we know is FREEMASONRY "

--You have again reached a conclusion without proper arguments. Satanic systems have always been present in the world. They are not new today.

My Answer :-
- Well brother...the system is to weaken peoples faith. In simple..this system is preparing for Dajjal/Antichrist its victums. Like...It is said in Hadith that " If a man with good faith will face Dajjal...He will become one of his followers as his miracles will make him think that Dajjal is the god. People having very strong faith will survive. So i dont think there are more people with strong faith.
There are many things which become essential for our lives, actually we made them essential, which weakens our faith.
Freemasonry represent Dajjal by many means. As you know...there is Jews lobby in USA. If you observe USA official seal and some official signs and logos you will find in there Freemasonry basics and these are designed according to Freemasonry idealogies.
And ofcourse as i told you up there that Jews think Antichrist/Dajjal as their king but not christians and Muslims. In christanity and Islam, DAjjal is enemy but in jews its their KING, ONE EYED KING. And above article shows you the jews preparation of their King. ONE EYED !

There ARE Satanic systems, there were satanic systems. But in freemasonry there are Satanic worshippers. How come you are so sure about it that there are no Satanic Worshippers in Freemasonry. Its a long history. The guy up there mentioned books of Freemasons who Worship Satan. First take a look at them and then tell us that there are no Satanic worshippers there. You shud better understand Freemasonry first and its 33 grades.
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Your Question :
----"DAJJAL will have the power to cause Famine, Earth quakes and destruction on a mass scale."

My Answer:
- Yes ....This is in Ahadith...not by me brother.
He will have powers to do such things.
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Your Question:
--What does this mean? By referring to Dajjal here, do you mean Dajjal the Man, or Dajjal the System?

My Answer:
- Dajjal the man...the man will have satanic powers and powers of Black Magic, as said in Ahadith. Allah is the One who gives and takes Power. As Shaitan too has powers given by Allah, now i cant go in detail why He gave SHaitan power...u know it !. Similarly, Dajjal is given powers too.
Now you must be thinking why da heck this Dajjal has to appear...well..there is an end of this world...and behind every end there are reasons...and Dajjal is one of the Reasons.
Why ?? First..ALlah knows better...secondly... To show that Allah is the only God and ISLAM is the only real religion. Allah is the supreme power and thats why a FITNAH like Dajjal will be executed by Issa (JESUS) and Allah will give Jesus the Power to execute him.
Jesus will then break the cross and kill the pig etc. theres a Hadith about it.
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:34 PM
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u'kn0w thiS is gEttin' reaL old *yawn*:zzz
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:35 PM
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Your Question:
---What do want to achieve by posting hadithes about Dajjal?

My Answer:
- Its pretty simple...some events that occured show us the sign of activity of this system and people running this system, and match it with history and signs of Qayamah. Im not the only one who do this..many ! There are signs of Qayamat "Judgment day" and minor signs are almost complete. Major signs are to be completed. So.. the events occuring today are leading the world to these MAJOR SIGNS.
Secondly, with help of Quraan and Hadith ..we understand the conditions of the world easily...the Intentions of Christians and jews and Muslims. We cant regret or ignore Ahadith and i think you wont too.
About Dajjal...the preparation can be seen there. NOT ALL JEWS, but those jews,zionists.
They are preparing according to their teachings in the bible which is corrupted (now dont say this is a lie). Jews and zionist (not all jews) have been practicing BLACK MAGIC which is also practiced in Freemasonry know as 'KABAAL' !. You have to read more regarding this.
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:37 PM
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Your Question:
"If Dajjal is Freemasonry, then what can we do? Freemasonry is not practiced in Muslim world. It is only present in the West, as you say. So why don't you inform them about Dajjal being Freemasonry? "

((((Or do you want Muslims to stand up against followers of Freemasonry and kill them? )))

My Answer:
Lolz... man i dont know why you are taking it too negatively. Thats a negative comment about killing Freemasonry ! (sorry to say this).
Anyway...my job is to tell you. It wont affect me.
We dont have to do anything and we cant do anything. Except DEFEND ourselves from their conspiracies. It is not only in the WEST. Its ALL OVEr THE WORLD. IN INDIA, JAPAN, CHINA, UK, and even it was in PAKISTAN !!!! But in pakistan...People who knew about them..protested and government BANNED this organisation as there were evidences of SATANIC WORSHIPPING ! This was in 1950s-1970s. And still there are some signs of Freemasonry in some churches in Pakistan. Their Symbol can be found on the Stained Glass of Churches. A TRIANGLE WITH ONE EYE !
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:40 PM
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Your Question
---I don't get what you want by writing about Dajjal.

My Answer:
- The main point writing about Dajjal is first to tell the people about this FITNAH as his time will be the WORST TIME EVER on MUSLIMS. Many people dont know about this.

Secondly, his coming, his activities and Ahadith tell us that he will have the support of (SORRY TO SAY THIS AGAIN, NEVER MIND) Jews, zionist more than anyone,this is in Hadith. And also people from other religion will follow him. He will be leading to a new religion. I dont have much
info. about new religion by him. Also..the "New WORLD ORDER" gives us a sense of this system. Allah knows the BEST !
If you observe the logo of U.S seal or behind U.S currency,i.e,
1$ Bill..you will find a Symbol, a PYRAMID and an EYE on the top of it, and written there is "NOVUS ORDO SECLOREM" MEANS "NEW SECRET ORDER". Ask any one who knows about this small text on this note. This is kinda creepy , why "NEW SECRET ORDER" with pyramid and an eye on the top. I do know about this symbol that HOW and WHY it is created like this. It was created according to some of BIBLE verses. More details...i have to get.
Well..this shows that U.S gov. IS controlled by Jews (Jewish lobby) and they are using U.S.A as a tool. Even most of the americans dont know about this.
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:43 PM
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Your Question:
---About Dajjal System. You have talked about the Dajjal System.

Answer:
" My advice to you...when some1 write something, try to understand it first, dont rush to make a series of questions with out concentrating on the main subject"
[quote]I think you would say the Prophet told about that System. [/quote]
" do not think that i would say....let me say it first, then think, thankyou"
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post Sep 14 2002, 04:46 PM
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Your Question:
Could you please give that specific hadith regarding the Dajjal System.
Please note that I did not say 'hadith about Dajjal', rather I would like to see 'hadith about Dajjal System', as was concluded by you."

Answer:
Well first it was Hadith about Dajjal, but anyway!

- Now for this question, i have given answers and explanations.
But there is no hadith about the System, but Allah and his Prophet has given us Quraan and Ahadith and in them they have warned us and in Allah has given us BRAINS to use to find out good and bad and to differentiate between them. Quraan and Ahadith teach us a perfect system of living life and it also helps man in making political decisions, thats what we call "According to SHAREHA". There is no specific Hadith about the Dajjal System but Hadith regarding DAJJAL gives us the concept and help us understanding this system.

One more thing... clear this from your mind that Muslims INTEND to KILL AMERICANS.
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Ali bro. review this chapter ..
and ppl too 'smile.gif'
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